12-03-2017, 10:39 AM
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Re: Phil Hammond -v- the Media
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiOne of my neighbours is Self Employed, a Computer Consultant.
He has only worked for one company for the last few years.
That is not genuine self employment.
Law was on the side of unigate they were allowed to do it, so it was recognised as self employment then.
12-03-2017, 10:46 AM
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Re: Phil Hammond -v- the Media
Originally Posted by Julie1962
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I don't get why that's not genuine, when my husband was a milkman they forced them to become self employed. No choice they had to keep books pay own tax and NI, hire their milk floats, order stock and sell it. It felt pretty self employed to me. Law was on the side of unigate they were allowed to do it, so it was recognised as self employment then.
Times have changed, it is no longer self employment, much better for the employees.
12-03-2017, 10:51 AM
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Re: Phil Hammond -v- the Media
Originally Posted by Julie1962
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I don't get why that's not genuine, when my husband was a milkman they forced them to become self employed. No choice they had to keep books pay own tax and NI, hire their milk floats, order stock and sell it. It felt pretty self employed to me. Law was on the side of unigate they were allowed to do it, so it was recognised as self employment then.
It could be challenged Julie darlin' - even back then - I did it many times on behalf of clients of the Law Centre, I don't remember ever losing one of those claims either.
12-03-2017, 11:29 AM
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Re: Phil Hammond -v- the Media
Originally Posted by Julie1962
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I don't get why that's not genuine, when my husband was a milkman they forced them to become self employed. No choice they had to keep books pay own tax and NI, hire their milk floats, order stock and sell it. It felt pretty self employed to me. Law was on the side of unigate they were allowed to do it, so it was recognised as self employment then.
12-03-2017, 11:54 AM
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Re: Phil Hammond -v- the Media
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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it mainly applies to people providing services and working alongside employees doing the same thing as the employees, such as contractors in an office sitting at a desk and doing the same role as their employed colleagues, but calling themselves self-employed and paying less tax & NI. They will no longer be seen as self employed based on the rules and will have PAYE applied. It's a massive shock to some who will see a big drop in a virtually tax free income. I met a lot of Australian and NZ contractors who were using this loophole. You can see the appeal.
Not necessarily Annie darlin' - I remember representing plumbers, brickies, electricians etc, etc on many occasions. Each and every one of them was declared to be an employee rather than self-employed.
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