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07-11-2020, 02:05 PM
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Re: Boris, You REALLY ARE The Weakest Link.

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
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Really?

We will have to wait and see., not long now.

Seven weeks and we will know who is right.
Nope.
It's going to take much, much longer - many years in fact before you see the real effects in terms of real facts and figures.

Just as you can't accurately predict a league-winning football club from their first match of the season, you can't accurately predict how well either the UK or the EU will do from the first occurrences of the New Year.
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07-11-2020, 02:09 PM
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Re: Boris, You REALLY ARE The Weakest Link.

Originally Posted by Cinderella ->
An EU official has said they will need the full text of any agreement by Nov16 for a plenary session of parliament on Dec 16. Allowing it to be scrutinised and translated into various languages.
In that case we might as well say we're out with no deal already, because the EU can't possibly write fast enough to meet that deadline if we came up with a deal today!

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07-11-2020, 04:00 PM
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Re: Boris, You REALLY ARE The Weakest Link.

Originally Posted by Zaphod ->
Nope.
It's going to take much, much longer - many years in fact before you see the real effects in terms of real facts and figures.

Just as you can't accurately predict a league-winning football club from their first match of the season, you can't accurately predict how well either the UK or the EU will do from the first occurrences of the New Year.
Some people just hate their own county and their own countrymen. It doesn't matter what happens, they will never be happy, I've met loads of people like that, they all have one thing in common, they never have any friends that think different to them. I wonder why that is ....
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07-11-2020, 04:34 PM
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Re: Boris, You REALLY ARE The Weakest Link.

Originally Posted by Bread ->
Some people just hate their own county and their own countrymen. It doesn't matter what happens, they will never be happy, I've met loads of people like that, they all have one thing in common, they never have any friends that think different to them. I wonder why that is ....
This hatred (or at best illogical dislike) has been an increasing trend since ......... well, since when?
Since we joined the EEC maybe?
Has all their propaganda worked to such a degree?

If you look at Yanks for example, even now at the height of difficult times they almost universally love their country.
They are extremely patriotic.

A poster in these forums I've noted is an Aussie and I can just imagine what he'd say to somebody decrying his country.

But when you speak to EUropeans (as opposed to Europeans; ie: EU citizens as opposed to those living in Europe but not EU citizens) that post in these parts of the forum there seems to be a common adoration of the EU above country.

There is no logic to it if they would take the time to closer-examine what the EU has done, but these people adore the EU.

Not Germany; not The Netherlands (as with those I have experienced here) but the EU.


So the EU's propaganda has worked.
On the gullible at least.
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07-11-2020, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinderella ->
Deal or No Deal. No deal rather than any compromise is the best deal for both sides.

When Britain makes a success of Brexit, other countries may want to follow in the UK's footsteps, that is the greatest fear.
Well said Cinders. My thoughts are exactly the same.
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07-11-2020, 05:02 PM
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Re: Boris, You REALLY ARE The Weakest Link.

Originally Posted by Zaphod ->
This hatred (or at best illogical dislike) has been an increasing trend since ......... well, since when?
Since we joined the EEC maybe?
Has all their propaganda worked to such a degree?

If you look at Yanks for example, even now at the height of difficult times they almost universally love their country.
They are extremely patriotic.

A poster in these forums I've noted is an Aussie and I can just imagine what he'd say to somebody decrying his country.

But when you speak to EUropeans (as opposed to Europeans; ie: EU citizens as opposed to those living in Europe but not EU citizens) that post in these parts of the forum there seems to be a common adoration of the EU above country.

There is no logic to it if they would take the time to closer-examine what the EU has done, but these people adore the EU.

Not Germany; not The Netherlands (as with those I have experienced here) but the EU.


So the EU's propaganda has worked.
On the gullible at least.
Socialists voted against their own principles when they voted to leave the EU. The EU is a socialist ideology based on unelected elites and state rule, erosion of national identity, open borders to promote regions instead of nations and the demise of democracy by putting forward single party politics with a fake voting system, where the people are controlled by a EU wide army commanded by the elite.

The haters want the rest of the UK punished for their decision while they sit sneering from the sidelines, waiting the "glorious day" to happen in the UK. Them telling everyone they voted leave then saying it will all be a disaster, we had "better watch out" somehow makes them a martyr so they can cope with their own hypocrisy.

It's quite pathetic really.
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07-11-2020, 06:09 PM
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Re: Boris, You REALLY ARE The Weakest Link.

Originally Posted by Bread ->
Some people just hate their own county and their own countrymen. It doesn't matter what happens, they will never be happy, I've met loads of people like that, they all have one thing in common, they never have any friends that think different to them. I wonder why that is ....
Dont forget that anybody born after 1974 have lived all their lives
as members of the EU in all its guises Bread ?
They think that is is how the world should be, and that we are
going to spoil it all for them??
Plus the education system became infiltrated by scialist teachers
and professors to pronote an entitlement mentaliy!!
They now think we are mad !!!

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07-11-2020, 06:35 PM
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Re: Boris, You REALLY ARE The Weakest Link.

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Dont forget that anybody born after 1974 have lived all their lives
as members of the EU in all its guises Bread ?
They think that is is how the world should be, and that we are
going to spoil it all for them??
Plus the education system became infiltrated by scialist teachers
and professors to pronote an entitlement mentaliy!!
They now think we are mad !!!

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As usual, DM you're absolutely right
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08-11-2020, 01:18 PM
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The hypocrisy of Macron knows no bounds. He (rightly) now wants Shengen rules altered and doubling of border guards because of terrorism in his country.

Whilst we were members of the EU, and were complaining about being overun with illegal and legal immigrants, when we ourselves were suffering with terrorism in our own back yard, his usual strict unyielding mantra was 'Free movement is the cornerstone of the EU'.
Only now that they are having the same dreadful things happening in France has he suddenly seen the light!
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08-11-2020, 01:25 PM
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Re: Boris, You REALLY ARE The Weakest Link.

Originally Posted by shropshiregirl ->
The hypocrisy of Macron knows no bounds. He (rightly) now wants Shengen rules altered and doubling of border guards because of terrorism in his country.

Whilst we were members of the EU, and were complaining about being overun with illegal and legal immigrants, when we ourselves were suffering with terrorism in our own back yard, his usual strict unyielding mantra was 'Free movement is the cornerstone of the EU'.
Only now that they are having the same dreadful things happening in France has he suddenly seen the light!
He's going to have trouble arguing against UK requests to tighten up on the illegals heading towards us in their dinghies because of that.
 
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