04-10-2019, 11:11 PM
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Re: Irate Ireland
Originally Posted by Moscow
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Not really.The Surrender law wasn't law at the time of the referendum and so doesn't apply to enacting the result of the referendum.
Also the law was a political ruling not a ruling within the realms of Justice and therefore not applicable
It would be easy to ignore the Surrender Bill and fight it in the courts once and for all.
#BritishIndependence.
#God Be With Our United Kingdom
#Gerechtigheid/Vrijdom/Vertrouwen
(Is that right ^^^?)
All laws are based on political visions of the majority in parliament. A law on social security conceived by the conservatives will be different from a law on the same subject conceived by labour.
It is the justice system that decides whether actions by individuals and institutions (including government) are within the boundaries of the law.
Laws being based on political premisses makes that every ruling has a political basis, especially when government is the subject.
In this case government and its head, the pm, has to abide by a law specifically designed for action by the pm. As they say: dura lex, ced lex.
Gerechtigheid, vrijheid, vertrouwen = justice, freedom, trust.
04-10-2019, 11:48 PM
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Re: Irate Ireland
Originally Posted by Purwell
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In words of one syllable preferably, can one of you tell me me how we will be better off by leaving?
Controlled immigration!
You are either deaf or dense, but l think both!
Donkeyman!
05-10-2019, 07:59 AM
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Re: Irate Ireland
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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Large trade deficit! High membership fees!! Renew fishing industry!Controlled immigration!
You are either deaf or dense, but l think both!
Donkeyman!
So how will leaving address the trade deficit other than we will be poorer and probably buying less. We only generate 20% of our wealth in trade in goods. The rest comes from services which we are free to sell to the rest of the world as WTO doesn’t cover them so little room for gains there. However we will lose passporting rights into the EU so trade from the UK will diminish, increasing the deficit . Yes we could buy elsewhere but that may come at the price of lowering our standards and a flood of cheap imports could damage our own manufacturers and reduce our manufacturing capacity
Yes we pay a fee and yes we get less back directly than we pay in. However the huge financial benefit we get from being a member, particularly from passporting of services makes our membership fee worth paying
How will the fishing industry be renewed when we have sold off most of the lucrative licenses to foreign interests and rely on exporting what we do catch to Europe which will now be subject to tariffs
How will we control immigration when we have failed to do so with countries outside the EU where we do have absolute control
Your last sentence seems to be you describing yourself
05-10-2019, 09:58 AM
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Re: Irate Ireland
Originally Posted by Banchory
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Oh dearSo how will leaving address the trade deficit other than we will be poorer and probably buying less. We only generate 20% of our wealth in trade in goods. The rest comes from services which we are free to sell to the rest of the world as WTO doesn’t cover them so little room for gains there. However we will lose passporting rights into the EU so trade from the UK will diminish, increasing the deficit . Yes we could buy elsewhere but that may come at the price of lowering our standards and a flood of cheap imports could damage our own manufacturers and reduce our manufacturing capacity
Yes we pay a fee and yes we get less back directly than we pay in. However the huge financial benefit we get from being a member, particularly from passporting of services makes our membership fee worth paying
How will the fishing industry be renewed when we have sold off most of the lucrative licenses to foreign interests and rely on exporting what we do catch to Europe which will now be subject to tariffs
How will we control immigration when we have failed to do so with countries outside the EU where we do have absolute control
Your last sentence seems to be you describing yourself
You should pay attention
05-10-2019, 10:51 AM
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Re: Irate Ireland
Originally Posted by Purwell
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In words of one syllable preferably, can one of you tell me me how we will be better off by leaving?
If you don't know then what were you voting for in the referendum ?
05-10-2019, 01:12 PM
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Re: Irate Ireland
[QUOTE=Banchory;1794609]Oh dearSo how will leaving address the trade deficit other than we will be poorer and probably buying less. We only generate 20% of our wealth in trade in goods. The rest comes from services which we are free to sell to the rest of the world as WTO doesn’t cover them so little room for gains there. However we will lose passporting rights into the EU so trade from the UK will diminish, increasing the deficit . Yes we could buy elsewhere but that may come at the price of lowering our standards and a flood of cheap imports could damage our own manufacturers and reduce our manufacturing capacity
Yes we pay a fee and yes we get less back directly than we pay in. However the huge financial benefit we get from being a member, particularly from passporting of services makes our membership fee worth paying
How will the fishing industry be renewed when we have sold off most of the lucrative licenses to foreign interests and rely on exporting what we do catch to Europe which will now be subject to tariffs
How will we control immigration when we have failed to do so with countries outside the EU where we do have absolute control
/QUOTE]
Just a suggestion. Perhaps you shouldn't formulate your answers as rethorical questions. Leavers, and they are in a disproportionate majority on this forum, have no understanding of that concept.
05-10-2019, 05:01 PM
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Re: Irate Ireland
Originally Posted by Bread
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So many question .... all of them answered hundreds of times before.You should pay attention
05-10-2019, 05:02 PM
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Re: Irate Ireland
[QUOTE=Solasch;1794776]
Originally Posted by Banchory
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Oh dearSo how will leaving address the trade deficit other than we will be poorer and probably buying less. We only generate 20% of our wealth in trade in goods. The rest comes from services which we are free to sell to the rest of the world as WTO doesn’t cover them so little room for gains there. However we will lose passporting rights into the EU so trade from the UK will diminish, increasing the deficit . Yes we could buy elsewhere but that may come at the price of lowering our standards and a flood of cheap imports could damage our own manufacturers and reduce our manufacturing capacity
Yes we pay a fee and yes we get less back directly than we pay in. However the huge financial benefit we get from being a member, particularly from passporting of services makes our membership fee worth paying
How will the fishing industry be renewed when we have sold off most of the lucrative licenses to foreign interests and rely on exporting what we do catch to Europe which will now be subject to tariffs
How will we control immigration when we have failed to do so with countries outside the EU where we do have absolute control
/QUOTE]
Just a suggestion. Perhaps you shouldn't formulate your answers as rethorical questions. Leavers, and they are in a disproportionate majority on this forum, have no understanding of that concept.
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