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13-08-2015, 08:03 AM
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Invited to doctors for a well woman health Check yesterday . I'm feeling very healthy , keep reasonably active , feel good for my age , that is until yesterday

Told I was bordering on over weight ......I weigh 10 stone
My blood pressure is extremely low ....... did I feel dizzy
my cholesterol is too high ....... the bad cholesterol
my sugar levels are high ......... gulp.......
my height was 5,3" .......... I've grown an inch ...hurray

if I was in a room with 12 people one of us would have a stroke or heart attack


Woken this morning , now feel I'm treading on egg shells ........... .

So what's left in life to do .....I like my glass of red wine
I like to have a cigarette now and again
I don't eat much red meat ..when i do its alays 5% low
i eat very healthy and i stay active .

Reckon it's time to kick the bucket !!!
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13-08-2015, 08:40 AM
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Its like you've had results for someone else !
Are you on Statins - I take an alternative, plant sterols, very good
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13-08-2015, 08:59 AM
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East Sussex Health Authority must be about the worst in the UK. Just had an eye follow up test yesterday. Told the person doing the examination that I could not remember doing the "driving" eye test (both eyes with glasses)

Said how about redoing it and she said I could make an appointment for the retest in a few weeks time. OK so far?

There was not one else waiting and the person who does this test was just chatting to other staff with nothing to do. So I blew my top and this resulted in having this "driving eye test" done there and then by this woman who had nothing else to do.

This was after being booked in and cancelled by them twice before and the eye surgeon was not even there yesterday and hardly ever as far as I can gather, more than likely doing private work in NHS time

Talk about being damn lazy and doing their best to avoid work they must have studied how to at university. This was at Maidstone Hospital eye unit.



No wonder the health service is so bad got the same reaction at another local hospital I am going to have an op at. one of the times i was kept in a ward for a few weeks I could not even get myself off the bed without help. As I got better I asked for a zimmer frame to help me getting about. It took 4 days before they got me one even though there was one keeping the ward door open.

Needless to say I am absolutely disgusted at the way patients are treated/ ignored totally, and that was just one example. The only ones that cared were those on the surgical assessment unit who were fantastic, like I was in a completely different hospital.

It really needs someone to go through these hospitals with a size 10 boot. If they had worked for me when I had a business they would be out the door within a week
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13-08-2015, 09:01 AM
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I watched a programme last night on BBC2 Are Health Tests Really A Good Idea.

It seems the least you know the healthier you feel or what you don't know can't harm you
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13-08-2015, 04:57 PM
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Did you watch Michael Mosleys program last night about health screening?

While some of the programme agreed with things I had seen and read, there was the usual disagreements amongst 'experts'. Mosley seemed to contradict his own findings from the previous weeks prog.
Having had his heart scanned and told that it showed a small but potentieally dangerous piece of plaque, he consulted an imaging specialist who told him it was not significant and not unusual for someone his age.

Last week in a bit of self experimentation, he discovered that making lifestyle changes could be as effective as taking statins in lowering cholesterol, but after tonights tests, he said he would start taking them... The conspiracy theorist in me thinks that there is somewhat of a hidden agenda in these progs.

Setting the statin issue aside, the matter of over-diagnosis and unnecessary treatment for prostate and breast cancer was very worrying.
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13-08-2015, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by solo ->
I watched a programme last night on BBC2 Are Health Tests Really A Good Idea.

It seems the least you know the healthier you feel or what you don't know can't harm you
I watched this program too Solo it was really interesting especially the Prostrate and Breast cancer items.
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13-08-2015, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumblewagon ->
Did you watch Michael Mosleys program last night about health screening?

While some of the programme agreed with things I had seen and read, there was the usual disagreements amongst 'experts'. Mosley seemed to contradict his own findings from the previous weeks prog.
Having had his heart scanned and told that it showed a small but potentieally dangerous piece of plaque, he consulted an imaging specialist who told him it was not significant and not unusual for someone his age.

Last week in a bit of self experimentation, he discovered that making lifestyle changes could be as effective as taking statins in lowering cholesterol, but after tonights tests, he said he would start taking them... The conspiracy theorist in me thinks that there is somewhat of a hidden agenda in these progs.

Setting the statin issue aside, the matter of over-diagnosis and unnecessary treatment for prostate and breast cancer was very worrying.
This has been debated for years in scientific circles, and I researched it in relation to a thesis I wrote on screening for ovarian cancer. By the time I had finished I had a lot of serious reservations about screening in the NHS. I still do.
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13-08-2015, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Aysa ->
I watched this program too Solo it was really interesting especially the Prostrate and Breast cancer items.
Like you I had my own reasons for watching this. Dr Iona Heath certainly gave food for thought in what she said about over diagnosis.
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15-08-2015, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumblewagon ->
Did you watch Michael Mosleys program last night about health screening?

While some of the programme agreed with things I had seen and read, there was the usual disagreements amongst 'experts'. Mosley seemed to contradict his own findings from the previous weeks prog.
Having had his heart scanned and told that it showed a small but potentieally dangerous piece of plaque, he consulted an imaging specialist who told him it was not significant and not unusual for someone his age.

Last week in a bit of self experimentation, he discovered that making lifestyle changes could be as effective as taking statins in lowering cholesterol, but after tonights tests, he said he would start taking them... The conspiracy theorist in me thinks that there is somewhat of a hidden agenda in these progs.

Setting the statin issue aside, the matter of over-diagnosis and unnecessary treatment for prostate and breast cancer was very worrying.
Re "taking statins in lowering cholesterol":

Much of the "scientific" research in favor of statins is flawed and fraudulent. The most reliable evidence has long tied statin use with memory problems, muscle disorders, liver damage, cataracts, nerve damage, pancreatitis, erectile dysfunction, brain dysfunction, diabetes, and with an increased risk of cancer and higher mortality (statins only somewhat reduce the risk of non-fatal heart attacks).

The physiological mechanisms of how statins do serious damage are also well understood, such as by their impairment of oxidative cell metabolism, the increase in inflammation and cell destruction, the lowering of cholesterol and steroid hormone production, the promotion of pancreatic injury, etc. - rather thoroughly explained in this scholarly article on how statins, and a cholesterol-lowering popular diet pill advertised by Dr. Oz, promote diabetes at Do Statins & Garcinia Cambogia Extract Increase the Risk of Diabetes? - look at Figure 7 to see how irrational it is to block the production of cholesterol!

Yet despite of the existence of that scientific knowledge, the medical business and the public health authorities keep ignoring it and continue to recommend statins to diabetics and make claims that they have a low risk profile despite that they are also significantly linked to cancer and higher mortality (just look at the propaganda put out by the Mayo clinic on statin drugs: "the risk of life-threatening side effects from statins is very low"). And because of such medical propaganda, few people are aware that the medical claims of benefits of statins are mostly based on junk studies conducted by people with vested interests. And, logically, it's mostly the corporate medical business and other people with similar vested interests tied to it (eg, mouthpieces, hacks) who promote the alleged value of these highly lucrative products.

Also, older people with HIGH cholesterol live longer than those with low cholesterol levels (see above mentioned article for numerous scientific study references confirming this).

Because the cholesterol-heart disease theory, or rather medical dogma, is wrong, the use of statins is also wrong by logical extension. Statins have almost no real benefit in the very vast majority of users. They do more harm than good. It's a "scientific" scam of the mainstream medical business.
 



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