18-10-2020, 02:30 PM
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Re: Could Hapless Barnier be for the Chop??
Originally Posted by Zaphod
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Dream on.Again (and again and again until it sinks in if necessary) there is between the two a €90 billion per year surplus.
You will soon see who that affects more when you see Monsiuer Barmier come to the UK cap-in-hand this week.
So you realised negotiations go on?
18-10-2020, 03:01 PM
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Re: Could Hapless Barnier be for the Chop??
Originally Posted by Zaphod
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That depends upon whether or not the EU submit to the UK.
I can't see that happening
18-10-2020, 03:23 PM
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Re: Could Hapless Barnier be for the Chop??
Originally Posted by Zaphod
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That depends upon whether or not the EU submit to the UK.
They won't
The commission is just a glorified civil service. They don't care about what damage it does to the 27, they will just fill the void by taking it over with more power.
More unemployment means a bigger, obedient population relying on the state and more control over them by the commission.
For the bankrupt businesses, they will be offered to Germany.
The EU commission only cares about the project and the project doesn't care about the people, only its objectives. Thats been clear for decades.
18-10-2020, 03:31 PM
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Re: Could Hapless Barnier be for the Chop??
Originally Posted by Bread
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They won'tThe commission is just a glorified civil service. They don't care about what damage it does to the 27, they will just fill the void by taking it over with more power.
More unemployment means a bigger, obedient population relying on the state and more control over them by the commission.
For the bankrupt businesses, they will be offered to Germany.
The EU commission only cares about the project and the project doesn't care about the people, only its objectives. Thats been clear for decades.
Who really thinks that saying "ah but the British will suffer too" is going to make them feel any better?
Especially when - AGAIN as following the GFC - the UK recovers quickly.
18-10-2020, 03:36 PM
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Re: Could Hapless Barnier be for the Chop??
Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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Do though tell your masters to give Boris a call when they are ready to grow up, I am sure he will fit you in somewhere beetween your own member states desperate to get their own deal with the UK. as well as the world. 
Germany, for example, would not be selling us many of their BMWs, Audis, VWs, etc. unless they can circumvent the inevitable tariffs.
Marge and I intend to buy a new VW Golf in March, or rather we had intended to.
We shall see. A 10% tariff would add another £2000 or more on to the price.
If the VW outlet is happy to cover that increase in cost, we'll still go for it. If not, we'll be looking at options from other countries, preferably the far east.
18-10-2020, 03:41 PM
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Re: Could Hapless Barnier be for the Chop??
Originally Posted by Zaphod
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Hundreds of thousands of normal EU subjects will soon find that out the hard way.Who really thinks that saying "ah but the British will suffer too" is going to make them feel any better?
Especially when - AGAIN as following the GFC - the UK recovers quickly.
We have had more inward investment and full employment since we voted to leave. Until the pandemic we were outstripping every member state on economic growth too.
The remainers and EU fanatics refuse to accept it because it illustrates more failure of the customs union and the single market. Their 3 biggest external markets each out perform the EU and don't have any trade deals with them.
Says it all.
18-10-2020, 03:45 PM
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Re: Could Hapless Barnier be for the Chop??
Originally Posted by JBR
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I would not be at all surprised if such a thing actually began to happen.Germany, for example, would not be selling us many of their BMWs, Audis, VWs, etc. unless they can circumvent the inevitable tariffs.
Marge and I intend to buy a new VW Golf in March, or rather we had intended to.
We shall see. A 10% tariff would add another £2000 or more on to the price.
If the VW outlet is happy to cover that increase in cost, we'll still go for it. If not, we'll be looking at options from other countries, preferably the far east.
We have a hugemarket for cars, and an extremely profitable one.
Somebody will make the very most of that - and together with the changing reliance on fuels, now is a good time to reconfigure our position.
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