Re: Time for Ireland to Grow Up?

Not being funny, Swimmy but your not making any sense again. Paperwork is done on-line and can even be completed months after delivery provided you are cleared by arrangements such as trusted trader etc. The same as VAT and customs, they are collected on-line. In the case of VAT, this is collected quarterly - import duties are collected in a lot of cases after the goods are delivered and paid for. You really should try importing and exporting, it really will open your eyes to how the world really works, not some flashback to 1972.

Goods are paid after delivery too - usually on 30 or 60 day invoicing - if goods arrive and they are garbage, back they go, that's why we have goods receiving at warehouses and quality control. We also have goods inspections away from the geographical borders - Calais is one example, Rotterdam another.

The tarrif amount is just an extra line on the on-line form - it's a no-brainer and 9/10 it's calculated for you. Just click, select and click - done.

RORO trucks are point to point transportation from Europe to the UK and back - a lot of it multi-drop. Why on earth would someone send a container full of goods from Japan or China and include the lorry as well on the ship ? We also have containers shipped from the EU to the UK through other ports such as Hull and Felixstowe - they are unloaded, loaded and out of the docks in minutes. The biggest problem Dover and Calais would ever have is bad weather when everything grinds to a halt as usual or the French go on strike.

We can do a lot better than the Calais crossing. A lot of trucks come through there that originate from places outside the EU too, such as Morocco. They don't have any trouble getting to the UK with border inspectors sifting through their trailers.

Stop making up stories.

Re: Time for Ireland to Grow Up?

Will Ireland be ignored in the EU's quest to prove their dominance?
"Irish central bank Governor Gabriel Makhlouf warned that Ireland will be the eurozone's biggest loser from a no-deal Brexit"
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-br...KBN2770EF?il=0

Many of us knew this but now the Irish are starting to accept it too.
Let's see if it makes any difference to the EU.
I suspect not.

Re: Time for Ireland to Grow Up?

Ireland will get stabbed in the back by the commission.

Re: Time for Ireland to Grow Up?

I suspect that it will make a difference to Ireland.
Expect them to follow us to freedom!

Re: Time for Ireland to Grow Up?

There are so many ways Ireland will be affected!

I was reading earlier about the EU's insistence upon all imported meat products being frozen and how this might affect UK exports if the EU continue playing silly beggars.
Because we export quite a bit of fresh meat-based produce to the EU, including sausages apparently.
Well - surely any Irish exports would be similarly affected because they have top come through the UK?
Think of all that Irish beef etc. destined for the EU.
That has to matter?


Oh and talking of the UK position there re: sausages in particular and how it might affect UK production for export: it seems that the UK imports 60% of all the pork we use anyway.
So again the reality would seem to be that the EU would be shooting themselves in the foot AGAIN because we wouldn't need to buy their pork to make it into whatever for them.

Re: Time for Ireland to Grow Up?

Hi

In response to Bread.

I am not making up stories.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...tent=immediate

Re: Time for Ireland to Grow Up?

But you're accepting what in all probability are exaggerated possibilities rather than being realistic.
The following story has just been published today and contains the following, which seem to be in agreement with Bread's surmise;

"Under the rules, heavy goods vehicles will need to obtain a digital Kent Access Permit before they enter the county or face a fine of 300 pounds, to enable the smooth flow of traffic onwards to the Channel Tunnel and Dover from where trucks travel into France and the European Union."
So there is your digital paperwork to keep traffic flowing.

Plus this:
“By putting in place these plans we’re ensuring Kent keeps moving, our fantastic haulage industry is supported, and trade continues to flow,” Transport Minister Grant Shapps said in a statement.
Lorries carrying time-sensitive exports such as fresh and live seafood and day-old chicks will be prioritised at the border"
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-br...KBN2771MV?il=0


So there you go.
If there are delays and we see hundreds (if that; now most probably not thousands, I think you will agree) of trucks parked up, it will be because they haven't paid attention and got their online paperwork in order before trying to cross.

Re: Time for Ireland to Grow Up?

You are

Try importing and exporting it might give you an idea how the world works.