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05-10-2020, 04:16 PM
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Toyota and Nissan.

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Thinks are hotting up.

https://europe.autonews.com/automake...ail-paper-says
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05-10-2020, 04:22 PM
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Re: Toyota and Nissan.

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

Thinks are hotting up.

https://europe.autonews.com/automake...ail-paper-says
Can't see them closing their factories any time soon because of the £multimillions investments both companies have made in them over the last few years. Don't forget Nissan closed its Spanish plant recently and moved production to Sunderland.
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05-10-2020, 04:56 PM
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Re: Toyota and Nissan.

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I agree, they will not be closing on 1st January.

The EU are playing the long game.
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05-10-2020, 05:40 PM
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Re: Toyota and Nissan.

Originally Posted by Percy Vere ->
Can't see them closing their factories any time soon because of the £multimillions investments both companies have made in them over the last few years. Don't forget Nissan closed its Spanish plant recently and moved production to Sunderland.
Wrong. Nissan will close its Barcelona assembly plant and two parts-making facilities by December as the global reorganization of the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance continues.
UK not getting a trade deal from the EU by end of october could still influence that decision. Especially as spain produces car parts that will not be regarded as foreign.

In a letter, Britain's chief Brexit negotiator says the UK has failed so far to get the car parts deal it wants, and "obviously cannot insist on it".Having enough parts sourced within the UK and EU is key to a free trade deal.

In a letter to the car industry, seen by the BBC, chief negotiator Lord Frost says one of their key priorities - that parts and components from Japan and Turkey count as British in any deal - has been rejected by the European Commission.
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05-10-2020, 06:11 PM
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Re: Toyota and Nissan.

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It is all about Electric cars, the future of automobile.

It is also about the huge argument about State Aid

The UK has lost out to the EU on the construction of the huge new plants needed to build the batteries.

https://www.theguardian.com/business...er-britishvolt

Unfortunately for the EU they are reliant on China for the lithium.

The UK has it's own lithium, shortly to be mined in Cornwall.

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05-10-2020, 06:38 PM
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Re: Toyota and Nissan.

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
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It is all about Electric cars, the future of automobile.

It is also about the huge argument about State Aid

The UK has lost out to the EU on the construction of the huge new plants needed to build the batteries.

https://www.theguardian.com/business...er-britishvolt

Unfortunately for the EU they are reliant on China for the lithium.

The UK has it's own lithium, shortly to be mined in Cornwall.

Karma Solasch.

Cornwall production is to start in 3 to 5 years. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cornwall-54188071
Finland already produces lithium for the current EU market. https://www.thefifthestate.com.au/in...cal-materials/

It will not solve the present problems around cars and car components. Those problems may impose damage that is not repaired by the time lithium is available at commercial levels.
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05-10-2020, 11:35 PM
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Re: Toyota and Nissan.

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Thinks are hotting up.

https://europe.autonews.com/automake...ail-paper-says
Perhaps japan could take a leaf out of the UK's book and overwritte the UK-japan FTA to include a clause that obliges the UK to pay all costs that are the result of brexit? It seems in UK people think that is quite acceptable and breaks law only in a minor and specific way.
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Re: Toyota and Nissan.

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
Perhaps japan could take a leaf out of the UK's book and overwritte the UK-japan FTA to include a clause that obliges the UK to pay all costs that are the result of brexit? It seems in UK people think that is quite acceptable and breaks law only in a minor and specific way.
All we have to do is start a manufacturing line to actually make
the parts ourselves??
Then all will be well !!

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07-10-2020, 09:29 PM
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Re: Toyota and Nissan.

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All we have to do is start a manufacturing line to actually make
the parts ourselves??
Then all will be well !!

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"We" donks? You mean nissan and toyota have to invest still more, just because the british don't know how to negotiate a trade deal? Or how to keep their word on an agreement? And those parts being manufactured elsewhere. A toyota consists of over 30,000 parts.
Much more righteous to show the british what brexit means?
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08-10-2020, 03:51 AM
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Re: Toyota and Nissan.

One of the worst decisions any government ever made was when the ideologues, Treasurer Joe Hockey and PM Tony Abbott decided to no longer support an Australian car industry. Thank gawd we have seen the back of them but the mess they left lives on

The financial cost of the loss of this industry has been increased infinitely by the Covid and now the current federal government is having to throw an eye wateringly greater amount of money at supporting manufacturing industry now that the car makers and their supply chain has withered away.

Don't make the same mistake.
 
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