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08-10-2020, 01:07 PM
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Re: Toyota and Nissan.

Originally Posted by Bruce ->
One of the worst decisions any government ever made was when the ideologues, Treasurer Joe Hockey and PM Tony Abbott decided to no longer support an Australian car industry. Thank gawd we have seen the back of them but the mess they left lives on

The financial cost of the loss of this industry has been increased infinitely by the Covid and now the current federal government is having to throw an eye wateringly greater amount of money at supporting manufacturing industry now that the car makers and their supply chain has withered away.

Don't make the same mistake.
Is that the same tony abbott who is now handling the trade negotiations nissan and toyota worry about?
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08-10-2020, 01:22 PM
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Re: Toyota and Nissan.

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
Is that the same tony abbott who is now handling the trade negotiations nissan and toyota worry about?
No, he's talking about Diannes husband of corse !!

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08-10-2020, 01:25 PM
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Re: Toyota and Nissan.

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All we have to do is start a manufacturing line to actually make
the parts ourselves??
Then all will be well !!

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Jaguar has a purpose-built engine plant and a design and technology centre on the northern outskirts of Wolverhampton. Also, there are many SMEs in the Midlands and North of England that are still producing parts for the UK AND European vehicle manufacturers. Oh, and Warwick University's automotive related degree courses are over-subscribed.
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08-10-2020, 01:35 PM
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Re: Toyota and Nissan.

Originally Posted by Bruce ->
One of the worst decisions any government ever made was when the ideologues, Treasurer Joe Hockey and PM Tony Abbott decided to no longer support an Australian car industry. Thank gawd we have seen the back of them but the mess they left lives on

The financial cost of the loss of this industry has been increased infinitely by the Covid and now the current federal government is having to throw an eye wateringly greater amount of money at supporting manufacturing industry now that the car makers and their supply chain has withered away.

Don't make the same mistake.
Its too late to make the same mistake Brucy, we made it about
35yrs ago long before you had a car industry !!
I think Hockey and Abbott made the right decision as the car
industry in the west has become unviable as they cant compete
with the orient anymore?
Why do you think the EU was formed??

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Re: Toyota and Nissan.

Originally Posted by Percy Vere ->
Jaguar has a purpose-built engine plant and a design and technology centre on the northern outskirts of Wolverhampton. Also, there are many SMEs in the Midlands and North of England that are still producing parts for the UK AND European vehicle manufacturers. Oh, and Warwick University's automotive related degree courses are over-subscribed.
Yes l know Percy, but these are just vestiges of what used to be?
And many of them are run from farm sheds and micro workshops
by practically minded owner occupiers? I agree these people could
well form the backbone of a new formation of manufacturing here
in the UK, but from what l see and hear there is no real enthusiasm
from either the politicians or the general public to engage in a return
to what used to be! For instance if l suggest to some of my younger
relatives that their children should consider going into some sort
of practical training where they use their hands as welll as their
brains, then their eyes go blank and they change the subject??
All they talk of is getting to uni !!
Im afraid I am going through a pessimism phase at the moment and
I dont want to infect you so l shall shut up now!

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08-10-2020, 04:24 PM
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Re: Toyota and Nissan.

Originally Posted by Percy Vere ->
Jaguar has a purpose-built engine plant and a design and technology centre on the northern outskirts of Wolverhampton. Also, there are many SMEs in the Midlands and North of England that are still producing parts for the UK AND European vehicle manufacturers. Oh, and Warwick University's automotive related degree courses are over-subscribed.
Only 80 days to deliver specialists trained in these courses, because by then they are needed.
If it takes only 3 months to train british specialists, that would explain why the EU demands from the UK to prove equivalence in products
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08-10-2020, 04:33 PM
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Re: Toyota and Nissan.

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Yes l know Percy, but these are just vestiges of what used to be?
And many of them are run from farm sheds and micro workshops
by practically minded owner occupiers? I agree these people could
well form the backbone of a new formation of manufacturing here
in the UK, but from what l see and hear there is no real enthusiasm
from either the politicians or the general public to engage in a return
to what used to be! For instance if l suggest to some of my younger
relatives that their children should consider going into some sort
of practical training where they use their hands as welll as their
brains, then their eyes go blank and they change the subject??
All they talk of is getting to uni !!
Im afraid I am going through a pessimism phase at the moment and
I dont want to infect you so l shall shut up now!

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Nice of your family to empathise with an old man who has been gone to the tropics too long to understand contemporary britain.
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08-10-2020, 10:23 PM
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Re: Toyota and Nissan.

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
Is that the same tony abbott who is now handling the trade negotiations nissan and toyota worry about?
The very same. Australia is a better place without him. I understand the collective IQ of both countries shot up when he went to the UK
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08-10-2020, 10:39 PM
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Re: Toyota and Nissan.

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Its too late to make the same mistake Brucy, we made it about
35yrs ago long before you had a car industry !!
I think Hockey and Abbott made the right decision as the car
industry in the west has become unviable as they cant compete
with the orient anymore?
Why do you think the EU was formed??

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Oh dear Assman, how quaint you are.

The first Holden rolled off the production line in 1948, I realise maths is not your strong point but I think you will find that is more than 35 years ago.

The first Australian cars were made in about 1896 and there has been a continuous car industry in the country until 2017. Buses, trucks and rolling stock are still manufactured in Australia, no one else has road trains.

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09-10-2020, 08:53 PM
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Re: Toyota and Nissan.

Originally Posted by Bruce ->
Oh dear Assman, how quaint you are.

The first Holden rolled off the production line in 1948, I realise maths is not your strong point but I think you will find that is more than 35 years ago.

The first Australian cars were made in about 1896 and there has been a continuous car industry in the country until 2017. Buses, trucks and rolling stock are still manufactured in Australia, no one else has road trains.

I know all about the Holden Brucy, it was an american V8 which
the sheep shaggers bought from america where it couldnt make it
due to its archaic design !!
But l suppose it was good enough for swagmen !
So you cant say that you had a truly australian car industry at all !!
When are all you hi IQ ozzies going to create something original
instead of digging coal out of the ground and exporting carbon all
around the planet? But maybe thats why they call you digger??

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