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Re: Here Comes Frexit

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Looks like The Netherlands and Cyprus are blocking the ratification of CETA too.

Oh dear...

Another deal that isn't.
Beautiful thing, isn't it, sovereignty. Pity you put it in hands of ian smith and the likes.
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Re: Here Comes Frexit

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Looks like The Netherlands and Cyprus are blocking the ratification of CETA too.

Oh dear...

Another deal that isn't.
Oooooooooooops! Oh dear, what a pity, never mind, eh?
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06-08-2020, 04:03 PM
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Re: Here Comes Frexit

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Quote from the link you provided Bread:
... Italy being the next nation to quit the EU. And with unemployment at 10 percent, rows over migration, crushing levels of debt, massive north/south economic disparity and a government with a deeply tenuous grip on power the Italians do look a safe bet.

I am a little surprised that the unemployment rate is ONLY 10% but that is not too shocking when you consider that more than 50% of the working Italians are actually Civil Servants of one sort or another (and many of these have 2nd, even 3rd jobs!).

The economic divide has been present for decades and decades. The dividing line between the 2 even has a name. It's called the "Mezzogiorno Line" which passes across Italy just below Roma. I know this because the company I worked for set up shop near a town called Pomezia so it could benefit from some enormous tax breaks in the 1970s.

Any Italian Government has a tenuous grip on power because they have to rely on small party coalitions all the time.

Here are a couple of links about the Mezzogiorno Line if you're interested:
https://www.britannica.com/place/Mezzogiorno
https://www.citymetric.com/business/...-one-chart-361


I didn't know about the Mezagiorno Line until your post - thanks for that
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06-08-2020, 04:05 PM
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Oooooooooooops! Oh dear, what a pity, never mind, eh?
In 2016 wallonië blocked it. Now the dutch do the same? Wow!
So good of the UK to have already ratified it. Now one on your own!
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You know what the French are like, Percy, they will blockade Paris until they get their own way. Besides, Macron won't be around much longer.

My French friends have already voted for Le Penn in previous elections, something they said they would never do, that's how hacked off they are with the EU and that was before the Covid fiasco.

I will be giving Frexit my full support
Good point.

Being heavily biased against the Frogs, I've always seen Micron as an MP truly representative of the majority of Frogs.

I am no doubt wrong.

I do think that if their government were to be led by Le Penn and her party, things would be quite different.

Not only would they be more likely to leave the EU and hasten its demise, they might even become slightly more pro-British. After all, it was us who set the ball rolling.
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06-08-2020, 09:43 PM
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Re: Here Comes Frexit

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It get's better

https://www.express.co.uk/comment/ex...-Henri-Gallois
Yes, I've been following that in the Express. The general consensus among the readers that Italy will be the first to go (following us, of course).

Of course, Italy is one of the countries whose economy has suffered particularly badly as a result of their membership, although not the only one by any means.

The Netherlands also featured quite highly in that survey.
I wonder whether a certain Dutch member of OFF has seen it!
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Re: Here Comes Frexit

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Yes, I've been following that in the Express. The general consensus among the readers that Italy will be the first to go (following us, of course).

Of course, Italy is one of the countries whose economy has suffered particularly badly as a result of their membership, although not the only one by any means.

The Netherlands also featured quite highly in that survey.
I wonder whether a certain Dutch member of OFF has seen it!
In my experience the DE has never presented facts correctly. For a laugh I prefer the stories of ian smith. He really is hilarious.
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I didn't know about the Mezagiorno Line until your post - thanks for that
No wonder, it's only there since 1130 AD.
 
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