Re: Drumming up racial fear and hatred

He never said they were coming.

He said that if Turkey ever did join we would see massive numbers coming over.

It's a fair enough prediction and a valid possibility.

70million is the approximate population of Turkey so, by definition, your assertion that he predicted that many would come here is a deliberate lie.

Well done You!

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Hi Julie,

I know you don't like to hear it but if you acknowledge we want a "proper free trade deal" with the EU then we have to remain.

The reason we are still stuck after 3 years is because Brexit was, is and always will be a lunatic fantasy in the mind of Nigel Farage and some billionaire media moguls. There was, is and will never be any plan to leave in a sensible way because it would take decades. Has Nigel written down a plan?


The simple facts are that we (UK) are self sufficient in just about nothing. After 40 years of close integration with the EU we cannot make our own drugs, we cannot feed ourselves and we absolutely depend on trade with the largest and nearest trading block in the world in order to survive let alone prosper.


After BoJo has resigned suppose we elect the Brexit party and they execute a no deal. What do you suppose will happen after the EU announce WTO tariffs on all our exports and our motor manufacturers leave because their "just in time" only works in Europe?

Re: Drumming up racial fear and hatred

Do you remember Labour's proposal for ID cards voted down by the Tories?


Tories don't care about immigration but they use it to drum up support for anything else.

Re: Drumming up racial fear and hatred

His dog whistle was something like "they can all come to UK" and that is exactly the message he wanted his believers to think.

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We don’t want a flood of uneducated ruthless / desperate east Europeans and Africans coming to our country .
They are not our culture and have a disregard for human life or dignity and disrespect for women
We dont need or want them we have enough bother with our own people .
These our own people must come first .

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How do you think Brexit will help with this?

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We must close the borders .
It’s a matter of survival .
These people who are basically economic illegal immigrants will / already have ruined out country .

Re: Drumming up racial fear and hatred

Sorry Muddy I'm not sure if you answered my question? This is a Brexit forum and my question was how do you see Brexit helping with immigration from Africa and Eastern Europe when Nigel Farage proposes an open border in Ireland?

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I listened to boris speaking in the HoC, you are quite right, you have enough bother with your own people when it comes to disregard for human life and disrespect for women. Take for instance what he said about jo cox.

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That's an interesting observation and very broad brush. Other than being more religious, East Europeans have a similar culture, do not disregard human life and respect women. Perhaps I just haven't been to the East European countries you are thinking of? If you go somewhere like Croatia for example you find a very civilised population. Just because these countries were in Stalin's grip for decades doesn't mean they have a backward culture!