26-04-2020, 11:16 AM
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I think a lot depends on one's property and lifestyle. We have a small terraced house in London. For about eight months of the year we have heating coming on at 06:20 for 20 minutes, that's enough to warm the place for an hour or two. We are out a lot, sometimes in & out a lot, I removed thermostat batteries years ago, we put the boiler on when we need it, the place is warm in 5 minutes and we turn it off after 15-20 minutes. We don't sit around watching TV for hours on end.In other words, we don't use much CH.
26-04-2020, 11:16 AM
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Unless you have your own wind turbine or solar you do burn fossil fuels or damage the planet with nuclear waste. With solar they have to be replaced every ten years max and the material used to create them is also scarce. Unless they have worked out how to make them with a different technology. But it's swings and roundabouts. There's an environmental cost to everything. The ideal solution is to use less. So insulation and more efficient systems.26-04-2020, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Dextrous63
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In fairness, not everyone has the same experience and indeed the fact that the op's WB boiler seems to have failed beyond economic repair is an indicator.As suggested earlier, a quick look on diynot will enable a more informed choce to be made with advice from a plethora of time served professionals.
26-04-2020, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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15 years is a good innings. The old fashioned boilers used to go on forever but these days the tech means it's flawed at source.
26-04-2020, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Dextrous63
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Without wishing to plug a different forum, I'd be inclined to seek advice from full time pros on diynot about the pros and cons of boiler replacement and maintenance contracts. They're more up to speed, and should be able to give a ball park figure of current installation costs.
26-04-2020, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Considerably less. The life of a storage heater is very long, typically 25 years plus, and the cost for a good, ie non basic thing, is £200 - £250. About in the event of failure it would be exceptional that the whole thing would need to be replaced instead it would usually just be the heating elementThe question of how often electric feeds to them need to be replaced can be answered by how often does a house need to be rewired because domestic night storage heaters generally use the existing house ring main.
Differential charging is achieved at the electricity meter, especially straightforward in the case of Smart meters.
Then there is the unquestionable benefit to our environment of avoiding the pollution resulting from burning fossil fuel. For us that was the BIG one.
The cost of a basic water radiator to be replaced isn't too different from an electric storage heater, once you've priced in all the materials required.
The more I think about it, the less inclined I am to endorse central heating systems with a single point of heat source. Heat loss/wastage in the pipes feeding rads, excessive time lags in getting the system to full temperature, pipework failure which leads to a real ballache to locate it and the inevitable damage to decoration etc.
Given that it is ridiculously easy to operate electric outlets on a wifi/remote control basis nowadays, which makes it far easier to control the heat source in individual rooms without even leaving your armchair, it makes little sense not to install electric single room heaters.
Of course there are similar wifi/smart controllers for wet systems, but these are a lot more expensive to install on individual radiators.
Although some may say that all you've got to do is go and turn the rad off manually, in reality this isn't anywhere as easy as pressing a button on a remote control or via an app.
Also, just how stupid is it that when we turn a tap or shower on, we have to wait for so much cold water to work its way through before it gets hot? Localised heaters (especially in kitchens) are far more efficient, plus they don't involve leaving a load of heated water (which then cools, thus adding to heat loss) in pipes when the tap gets turned off.
26-04-2020, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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15 years is a good innings. The old fashioned boilers used to go on forever but these days the tech means it's flawed at source.
26-04-2020, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JBR
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I agree. I visit Diynot every day, though perhaps I should add that we're not supposed to mention other fora on here!
I rarely go on there, other than to look.
You will be surprised to hear that, for totally unfair and unfounded reasons, they've given me a life ban
26-04-2020, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by d00d
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Yes and I've proved to myself, a boiler will last 15 years with or without the annual service.
26-04-2020, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Tedc
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I agree with you, the PV.If you add up the service charges and shove in the very large fee for Flushing, which BT always seem to demand, you could, probably, replace the Boiler every two or three years and be in pocket.
As for the quality of the BT plumber, I got rid of my contract, some years back, because it took 3, or 4, visits to establish the reason for my system not working.
Here's the clue, which my 3 year old grandchild would shout the answer to:-
Yes, I had hot water running fine, but no heating to the radiators.
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