Re: Could the European Elections herald the end of the EU?

Hi

The world does not just trade on WTO Rules, it trades on WTO Rules and WTO Free Trade Agreements.

Leaving with a No Deal puts us at a huge disadvantage.

It puts us an a par with Mauritania.

The EU will not come running, it is not in their interests to do so.

We do not own our Industries, we sold them off, they will go where they can make the most profit.

The EU can actually make a profit from our leaving.

They will look after themselves, not us.

Re: Could the European Elections herald the end of the EU?

With all due respect Swim, we are talking about a potential market of over 65 million people compared to Mauritania's population of just 4.5 million....
We are among the most highly populated and advanced nation currently in the EU.
Quite desirable by anybodies standards, and add to that the contribution that the UK makes to the EU it would be economic suicide to turn your back on such a market....

Re: Could the European Elections herald the end of the EU?

I agree with you.

I'm becoming bored with listening to prophets of doom assuring us that we cannot survive outside of the EU, and I know that I'm far from alone.

They won't stop, of course. The most they can do is to keep plugging their 'we must remain to survive' mantra, but fortunately most people are refusing to give in to them.

The Brexit movement is not declining. On the contrary, more and more people are beginning to understand May's lies and those of all other Remoaners.

The evidence is there, and when the EU election results are published on Sunday I am sure we will see a majority vote for the Brexit Party.

Re: Could the European Elections herald the end of the EU?

Hi

They are not coming running though are they?

Liam Fox promised all existing Trade Deals would be rolled over ready for Brexit Day, he has only managed 6% of them.

Japan has publicly criticised us for our attempts at a Trade Deal with them, say we were woefully unprepared to negotiate.

India has told us to swan off unless we accept more Immigration from them, they are now negotiating with the EU as a priority.

I shall scream if anyone says we cannot negotiate a Trade Deal until after we leave, that is total rubbish.

We can negotiate and agree as many as we want ready to come into force on the day of leaving.

It is not the British people I despair of, it is our useless Politicians.

Re: Could the European Elections herald the end of the EU?

The WTO is there for a reason and we are a member of it

What is so scary about the common external tariff,?

Re: Could the European Elections herald the end of the EU?

Of course the EU will trade with you, but on wto terms. That means you pay the same tarifs on the goods you export to the EU as other third party countries do. Goods you import from EU countries you have to put the same tarifs on as you do on goods from elsewhere in the world.
The consequences of that? Swim has explained that before to several members, but the lesson won't stick.

Re: Could the European Elections herald the end of the EU?

The EU does NOT trade with us ...

Businesses trade with us.

Re: Could the European Elections herald the end of the EU?

Well said OGF and JBR. Remainers and doubting Thomases have never been slow in pointing out our economy would suffer immeasurably if we left without a deal. It's as if they have been brainwashed over the years or truly believe they need to keep lecturing that we who support no deal as a last resort against an intransigent EU, are too stupid or ignorant to appreciate that it will mean a short economic setback for this country. How patronising!

The EU rightly believed, (thanks again to those same people above) they always from the start, had the upper hand in negotiations. To have taken no deal off the table by our fifth column was the worst possible thing that could have happened. Our cowardly lot could never see beyond their noses that the EU would never have let it get that far if we had called their bluff as it would have been economic suicide also for many of their EU states, such as France, Netherlands, Finland, Ireland and Germany. But of course, that was never going to be the case with their assistance of our fifth column in our Parliament, it must have brought a huge smile to those wishing to thwart Brexit when no deal was voted off the table.

Maybe, just maybe, now Maybot has gone, we can boot out all those advisors and civil servants that have been happy to treat Brexit as a damage limitation exercise rather than the start of our independence, and if, as expected, they choose someone like Boris,( the best of a bad bunch) wouldn't it be a clever move if he has any sense at all, to invite Nigel Farage into his government, then perhaps we would see two pairs of b...s negotiating how it should have been done from the start, with no deal back on the table, we may yet get a fair and sensible negotiating stance back in the room.
We desperately need someone who will not be in awe, overwhelmed or seduced by the chicanery of the likes of Barnier and Co who until now, have always had the upper hand by holding talks on their home turf.

Negotiations to leave should be held in both countries. Not just Brussels. The EU have had it all their own way for the past three years. The new team will need to take them on headfirst, if they don't they too will soon be toast and another PM will bite the dust. Nigel and the Brexit Party will be in office!. Laugh all you want remainers. Even you cannot fail to see what is happening with the EU elections. This is the 2nd referendum you have always been asking for in all but name. The people want out, without a deal if necessary, but out! so instead of standing on the sideline forever whinging about how we will suffer economic woe if we leave without a deal, please get a backbone and back Britain to be strong enough, resilient enough, and economically sound enough to stand on our own two feet as we have done for hundreds of years, long before the EU was just a thought.

RULE BRITANNIA! Time for another cuppa!

Re: Could the European Elections herald the end of the EU?

We should only be negotiating with elected leaders.

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If you really believe a no deal brexit would mean economic suicide for other EU members, how can you even think it would mean a short setback for the UK?