Re: The Vindictive Nastiness if the EU

Determined by who? It’s our government and particularly those who championed Brexit have broken international law, been frequently caught out lying ands have used emergency powers to give lucrative contracts to mates who have no prior experience or expertise in the relative fields and would certainly fail any PQ process. Boris and his mates have also damaged this country economically by his woeful response to the pandemic which vaccination won’t solve.

Taxes will likely rise which contradicts the Tory manifesto and it seems likely you will have no choice but to pay your 13.8% employers NI as the government will otherwise make good on there policy to make the end user liable

On the subject of Biden, I’m sure with his Irish ancestry hr way sympathetic to the reunification of Ireland and he certainly have opposed extradition of IRA members on human rights grounds but he also condemned the IRA violence. What is a also clear is that there is no evidence he ever funded the IRA. It seems that you are going back to your old ways of making things up again.

Re: The Vindictive Nastiness if the EU

We haven't broken any law at all. National laws supercede international treaties.

Biden was involved with Noraid. We all know what Noraid funded.

Re: The Vindictive Nastiness if the EU

Do not disagree, facts are that Boris has done more to rectify and acknowledge early failings. Macron has 'small man' attitude no decency no honour and absolutely no respect from the public.

Re: The Vindictive Nastiness if the EU

The U.K. ratified the Agreement brokered with the EU into U.K. law and have now broken that agreement. What’s not to understand???

Even that supplier of turkey feed Brexit Watch was unable to establish any link between Biden and Noraid so again you seem to be making things up.

Re: The Vindictive Nastiness if the EU

The TCA is a treaty between the UK and the EU (which isn't signed on the EU side anyway,).

Parliament has written the TCA into UK law. National laws always take precedence over international treaties, breaking treaties happens all the time. The EU even have a process for it (checkout their infringements policy and monthly dashboard of how many are made, outstanding and who did it).

Your outrage should be aimed at the EU they are the ones breaking international law over the Irish border and supply of vaccines, which is also against WTO rules.

Re: The Vindictive Nastiness if the EU

The EU have still failed to ratify it, so why should we abide by it?

I know that you'll do anything to defend the EU. Now defend their refusal to ratify the agreement!

Re: The Vindictive Nastiness if the EU

If that poster does I suppose it will be by using lies too, like the statement earlier:

That is wrong as you know Banchory because I have shown you once already.
Here in this very thread.
Post #84.

If you were so sure of your stance there would be no need to attempt deceit.
So all I can deduce is that you're deliberately trying to mislead people and what is worse is that you're trying it in a forum with people who know better.


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Re: The Vindictive Nastiness if the EU

Unless you are classifying Russia as being a totally European country your data shows The UK as having the highest death toll in Europe

Why are you determined to misrepresent the facts?

Re: The Vindictive Nastiness if the EU

Countries don't have a standard way of reporting covid deaths. In the UK we have one of the most open in that regardless of what the cause of death is, if the patient is suspected of having covid then that goes down as a covid death.

If you think that the UK government is responsible for the number of deaths you should think again and look towards China and the EU open border policy. Again, reporting doesn't give the most accurate figure as countries do it differently and different statistics paint different pictures.

Your arguments are about 6 months out of date.

Re: The Vindictive Nastiness if the EU

We can all see who is trying their darndest to misrepresent the facts, and that is you.
Refuting such deliberate misrepresentations in a full and honest manner takes time so the length of this post is your fault.


As I explained in the earlier post, you seem hellbent upon trying to deceive people who already know better.
Why is that, if you're so sure of your opinions?
Surely if you are right there's no need to try and deceive others?



Russia BTW is at least partially in Europe and is as I'm sure you are aware it is partially in Asia too - but that is irrelevant and is just part of your deliberately being disingenuous.
You're being deliberately distasteful too, in effect attempting gloating over human misery.


Still, distasteful though it is and although I have already pointed out to you the error of your ways I willl reply just so that others understand the depths to which you obviously will stoop just to try and deliberately mislead them.
(It is another display of EU vindictiveness too since you're obviously trying to stand up for the EU, in the face of overwhelming evidence that they are indeed being purely vindictive.)

First this pandemic is not over.
You know this.
So fatalities are increasing.
Where are they increasing at a far greater rate then here?
Yes, in a number of EU countries.

Second who is counted as being a fatality due to Covid-19?
Here it is anybody who for any reason has died within 28 days of being tested for the virus - so if you're run over by the bus; have a heart attack; or commit suicide you're counted as a Covid-related death.
Show us with evidence where else in Europe counts their statistics like we do here in the UK?
They don't.
You know they don't.

Third the countries with the largest populations are almost bound to have the highest figures in pure numbers.
That is misleading.
You know this too but apparently that doesn't matter to you; apparently deceit does.

I tell you what: since you insist upon talking about countries, how about if instead of comparing the whole of the UK we compare just England?
That will be 86,053 fatalities attributed to Covid-19 to 24th March in England; you can add another 350 for this week (*1), give or take until the official figures are released if you want.
Italy by comparison as of yesterday has 107,636 and France has 94,465.
Germany BTW that last year thought it had escaped the worst is at 76,404 and rising at around twice our rate so far.
(Would you rather see Scotland's? In comparison to Slovakia maybe since the population is about the same size? Have a look and educate yourself. )

So how about we compare the UK's statistics to the whole of EU since the UK is a union of four countries, if you want to try that argument?

No?
Whyever not?
The best way as I suspect you know already (though as said, counting methodolgy means there really is no good way) is to compare fatalities per million of population and I have already shown you that the UK overall is not the highest here, and that even more are likely to see more deaths than we - despite methodolgy differences.

Now unless you're going to contribute towards the thread rather than deliberately try to deceive I suggest that you cease the approach you're on.
When you can make honest, open arguments you might get more support for yourself just as the EU would if they were not so deliberately vindictive.

Sadly as per usual it is people that suffer.
This time with their lives.
And it's on the other side of the channel that more are paying these consequences at this point in time.




*1 https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistic...total-archive/