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Send them all back whence they came!
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Until the end of next year we can just send them back to France.

It is our decision not to do that.

Artful is simply wrong, it has nothing to do with EU Policy at all.

France and Germany expel thousands.
They can't be just returned to France or anywhere else because the very instant they demand asylum be are bound by the ECHR that Blair signed us up to to accept them while their case is investigated. If they fail to be granted asylum then we can only deport them to their country of origin, France is not required to accept them back.

Unless there is concrete evidence of their country of origin we end up having to let them stay and look after them.

It's the same across the EU. No proof of country of origin - no expulsion but because we provide such better "Benefits" we remain the target of choice by the parasites.
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They can't be just returned to France or anywhere else because the very instant they demand asylum be are bound by the ECHR that Blair signed us up to to accept them while their case is investigated. If they fail to be granted asylum then we can only deport them to their country of origin, France is not required to accept them back.

Unless there is concrete evidence of their country of origin we end up having to let them stay and look after them.

It's the same across the EU. No proof of country of origin - no expulsion but because we provide such better "Benefits" we remain the target of choice by the parasites.
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Absolute Bollox.

Your misunderstanding of the situation is stunning.

It can only be deliberate, the facts are there for all to see.
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Absolute Bollox.

Your misunderstanding of the situation is stunning.

It can only be deliberate, the facts are there for all to see.
Well the evidence is in what is taking place.
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Well the evidence is in what is taking place.
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Nope, we have an absolute right as long as we are in the EU or Transition Period.

We are leaving the EU, we are not leaving the ECHR.

They are very different bodies.

Russia is a member of the ECHR.

Once we leave the EU they are ours and ours alone.
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15-12-2019, 03:25 PM
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Nope, we have an absolute right as long as we are in the EU or Transition Period.

We are leaving the EU, we are not leaving the ECHR.

They are very different bodies.

Russia is a member of the ECHR.

Once we leave the EU they are ours and ours alone.
Leaving the loathsome EU is the first step on a road that will enable a great number of roll backs of harmful legislation. The signing up to the totally unnecessary and very harmful ECHR is one that can and certainly should be very high on the list.

What we do with illegals and failed "asylum seekers" must then be up to us.

One option would be to facilitate their entry into France as the Frogs have done to us being one option, permanent internment in secure camps another until they identify their homeland and cooperate in being kicked out another.

Maybe explore the option of outsourcing such camps to places in Africa where what we would pay would be much less than keeping them banged up here, a win win, for us a lower per capita cost and for the African country a valuable invisible export.
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I thought the laws relating to refugees were agreed here way before we were even EEC members.
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Leaving the loathsome EU is the first step on a road that will enable a great number of roll backs of harmful legislation. The signing up to the totally unnecessary and very harmful ECHR is one that can and certainly should be very high on the list.

What we do with illegals and failed "asylum seekers" must then be up to us.

One option would be to facilitate their entry into France as the Frogs have done to us being one option, permanent internment in secure camps another until they identify their homeland and cooperate in being kicked out another.

Maybe explore the option of outsourcing such camps to places in Africa where what we would pay would be much less than keeping them banged up here, a win win, for us a lower per capita cost and for the African country a valuable invisible export.
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We are a founder member of the ECHR.

It is linked to the UN and is a condition of many Trade Deals with Countries outside the EU.
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We are a founder member of the ECHR.

It is linked to the UN and is a condition of many Trade Deals with Countries outside the EU.
Links must now be broken. They are not beneficial to us. Nothing must be sacrosanct in our regaining our independence.
 
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