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31-08-2019, 09:55 AM
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Re: Is a No Deal Brexit a Worry?

Originally Posted by weedeek ->
I can only suggest you listen to the message and not the voice. It’s a bit like rejecting a new house because you don’t like the wallpaper. The whole piece is a criticism of the selfish wealth which is more apparent in the South of England and has the interest of the ordinary people at its heart. However, minds are made up and well just have to agree to disagree and see what happens. I certainly am not of the opinion that the likes of Boris, Jacob, IDS, Dominic Cummings, the ERG etc. , have the interests of ordinary North of Watford people st heart.
I have the same reservations as you about our establishment
Weedeek, with the exception of Farage, who is an unknown
quantity, all the others are from the same mould!
So if Boris comes short Nigel gets my vote, as at least we
will bget change bof a sort?

Regards Donkeyman!
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31-08-2019, 09:56 AM
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Re: Is a No Deal Brexit a Worry?

Another person who is not a fan of Fry here, he is a pro-remain and frequently seems to talk a lot of nonsense.

'No deal 'is not a worry to me. I think some who voted remain are greedy and self-serving and scared of losing out on a few things while the UK adjusts to its new status.

I would rather take on a few inconveniences if they happen for the good of the UK and its future prosperity and freedom from a dictatorial EU.
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31-08-2019, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by shropshiregirl ->
Morning Bruce. I don't want to watch or listen to Stephen Fry's take on Brexit, thanks.

You obviously don't appreciate that here in the UK, he is renowned as an Arch remainer, has-been celebrity Luvvie, part of the London elite establishment that hog the limelight at any opportunity to put down Brexit.

Show me a clip of ordinary North of Watford people, unrelated to the selfish wealth of the South and I will happily watch a fair assessment of people's take on Brexit. But certainly not that obnoxious plank.
So you think that ordinary people only live north of Watford?
Your arrogance and ignorance knows no bounds.

What you call “the selfish wealth of the South” is your jealousy of enterprising people who work hard and who are net contributors to the UK economy and are people who never whinge or complain of supporting the net takers across the rest of the country

The irony is that one of the key mantras of leavers is that the UK are net contributors and shouldn’t subsidise the net takers

Fry may we’ll be obnoxious but the message he is imparting is real.

However it seems that you would rather throw your toys out of the pram because he’s an “arch leaver” rather than read it

Pathetic!
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31-08-2019, 10:17 AM
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Re: Is a No Deal Brexit a Worry?

Originally Posted by Banchory ->
So you think that ordinary people only live north of Watford?
Your arrogance and ignorance knows no bounds.

What you call “the selfish wealth of the South” is your jealousy of enterprising people who work hard and who are net contributors to the UK economy and are people who never whinge or complain of supporting the net takers across the rest of the country

The irony is that one of the key mantras of leavers is that the UK are net contributors and shouldn’t subsidise the net takers

Fry may we’ll be obnoxious but the message he is imparting is real.

However it seems that you would rather throw your toys out of the pram because he’s an “arch leaver” rather than read it

Pathetic!

Look at how constituencies voted in the referendum, that should give you a clue.

Just more wealthy socialists that think they know what's best for everyone. Go and have a look at the range rover brigade protesting against democracy with their kids in designer buggies and cathy kitson wellies.
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31-08-2019, 10:32 AM
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I don't think SG believes only ordinary people live north of Watford her point is quite correct. There are pockets of normality all over the country even in London but the north voted more overwhelmingly to leave than most other places.
Northern people work just as hard as those of us in the south just because the south looks richer doesn't mean we work harder just most of the wealthy businesses base themselves here.
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31-08-2019, 10:40 AM
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Re: Is a No Deal Brexit a Worry?

Originally Posted by Banchory ->
So you think that ordinary people only live north of Watford?
Your arrogance and ignorance knows no bounds.

What you call “the selfish wealth of the South” is your jealousy of enterprising people who work hard and who are net contributors to the UK economy and are people who never whinge or complain of supporting the net takers across the rest of the country

The irony is that one of the key mantras of leavers is that the UK are net contributors and shouldn’t subsidise the net takers

Fry may we’ll be obnoxious but the message he is imparting is real.

However it seems that you would rather throw your toys out of the pram because he’s an “arch leaver” rather than read it

Pathetic!

Londoners never whinge, Banchory, you obviously keep your
head in a bucket if you missed massed contributors to the
economy that downed tools to take to the streets this week
in london? Most of them under 25yrs of age by the looks
of them PAH?
As regards people in the north being non contributors if
they are such you forget that bthey were forced to be so
by the fact that their employment oppurtunities were taken
from them by a combination of crap gov policies and eu
machinations in fishing etc etc!
I could go on forever but it would not be heard?

Regards Donkeyman!
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31-08-2019, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Londoners never whinge, Banchory, you obviously keep your
head in a bucket if you missed massed contributors to the
economy that downed tools to take to the streets this week
in london? Most of them under 25yrs of age by the looks
of them PAH?
As regards people in the north being non contributors if
they are such you forget that bthey were forced to be so
by the fact that their employment oppurtunities were taken
from them by a combination of crap gov policies and eu
machinations in fishing etc etc!
I could go on forever but it would not be heard?

Regards Donkeyman!
It's heard by many of us donkeyman how the north have been treated is dreadful. They are treating all less well off badly now too. In time it'll be London they turn on and the they need to realise they won't get much sympathy from the rest of us.
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31-08-2019, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by zuludog ->
My background is traditional Northern England working class, and for years I voted Labour, but not any more

Even though Boris, JRM, Nigel Farage & co have an educated and upper class background, they speak more for me than Corbyn or anyone else in the current Labour Party

If Boris, JRM and Froggage speak for you, I think you can forget the Northern working class credentials.
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31-08-2019, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Reality1 ->
If Boris, JRM and Froggage speak for you, I think you can forget the Northern working class credentials.
My Grandfather was in The Clydeside Soviet
My Dad was a bricklayer
We lived in a terraced house with cold water & outside toilet in Beswick, inner city Manchester; it's all been demolished now
All our family were Labour supporters

For years I religiously voted Labour in local & general elections
I was extremely happy when Tony Blair got that landslide victory in 1997

Then it all turned to cr*p, with the current Labour Party being a rabble of anti British incompetents (Lammy? Abbott?) led by a terrorist sympathiser
Even at this late stage they are trying to overturn the majority decision of the biggest exercise in democracy ever held in this country

Like I said, some people simply cannot understand that traditional Labour supporters now support Boris, JRM etc on Brexit, Law & Order, Immigration and so on
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31-08-2019, 01:50 PM
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Re: Is a No Deal Brexit a Worry?

Originally Posted by weedeek ->
I can only suggest you listen to the message and not the voice. It’s a bit like rejecting a new house because you don’t like the wallpaper. The whole piece is a criticism of the selfish wealth which is more apparent in the South of England and has the interest of the ordinary people at its heart. However, minds are made up and well just have to agree to disagree and see what happens. I certainly am not of the opinion that the likes of Boris, Jacob, IDS, Dominic Cummings, the ERG etc. , have the interests of ordinary North of Watford people st heart.
All the antagonism on this forum has supposedly nothing to do with the fact that stephen fry is married to someone 30 years younger. And certainly not with him being a homosexual? I bet every one of you can claim friendship with someone who is gay. So absolutely no prejudice there. It is all due to the fact that he is a remainer.
The antagonism looks the same as that of recent history against immigrants, moslims, communists, homosexuals, women, slaves, americans, negroes, french etc. People like you have always been around.
 
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