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Re: The Non-Conformance to Single Market Rules

Originally Posted by Bread ->
Then there is the IMF - who repeated the doom and gloom of Osbourne. (Incidentally, the last time they said that, it was to warn us if we dared to leave the ERM - we did and nothing happened. Interestingly enough I think it was Christine Lagarde the convicted criminal now running the ECB who said it).
And then there were the cases that were not found out.

Unclear is even to what extend the cases that were found out did have influence.
If the election/referendum outcome is a few percentagepoints apart influence may have been at work. If there is a difference in the order of several tens of percentagepoints the gap was too great to bridge by subtle influence.
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Re: The Non-Conformance to Single Market Rules

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We don't have to wait until 2021 to see the result of the latest one. The result was declared very early on the morning of June 24th 2016. We all know the EU doesn't like referendums for the simple reason that they cannot control the result.
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Since 1972, a total of 48 referendums have been held by*EU member states, candidate states, and their territories, with several additional referendums held in countries outside of the EU. The referendums have been held most commonly on the subject of whether to become a member of*European Union*as part of the accession process, although the EU does not require any candidate country to hold a referendum to approve membership or as part of*treaty ratification. Other EU-related referendums have been held on the adoption of the*euro*and on participation in other EU-related policies.

The*United Kingdom*is the only EU member state to have held referendums on continued membership of the European Union and its antecedent organisation, the*European Communities. In the*first referendum in 1975, continued membership of what was then the*European Communities*(which included the*European Economic Community, often referred to as the*Common Market*in the UK)[nb 1]*was approved by 67.2% of voters, while in its*second referendum in 2016*voters voted by 51.9% to leave the European Union.[nb 2]
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24-07-2020, 01:43 PM
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Re: The Non-Conformance to Single Market Rules

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Yes, and on and on it goes. Osborne also said property prices would plummet by 17%. Thanks for reminding me. So much interference I had forgotten half of it.
You'll like the outcome of the latest referendum on the EU. 2018 in north macedonia, where 94% voted in favour of joining. No interference detected.
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Re: The Non-Conformance to Single Market Rules

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Here in the UK we have just recently been discussing whether there was any involvement by Russia in the Brexit referendum with remainers believing there was (no evidence to support that view).
Better tell priti then that this: Priti Patel to propose new laws against foreign interference after Russia influence report, is a waste of public money! No need for any preventive measures. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9635556.html
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24-07-2020, 02:20 PM
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Re: The Non-Conformance to Single Market Rules

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
You'll like the outcome of the latest referendum on the EU. 2018 in north macedonia, where 94% voted in favour of joining. No interference detected.
They want free money like most other countries that joined, especially the ones that belonged to the Soviet Union.

All it means is that the EU will borrow more money to fund them, while you pay for it.
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They want free money like most other countries that joined, especially the ones that belonged to the Soviet Union.

All it means is that the EU will borrow more money to fund them, while you pay for it.
Very much so. Another receiver state. At least we won't have to cough up any more. Ain't that right Sol?
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24-07-2020, 02:35 PM
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Re: The Non-Conformance to Single Market Rules

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You'll like the outcome of the latest referendum on the EU. 2018 in north macedonia, where 94% voted in favour of joining. No interference detected.
There wouldn't be any point interfering if the outcome was a slam dunk now would there? Surely, even you can appreciate that?
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24-07-2020, 02:37 PM
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Re: The Non-Conformance to Single Market Rules

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Since 1972, a total of 48 referendums have been held by*EU member states, candidate states, and their territories, with several additional referendums held in countries outside of the EU. The referendums have been held most commonly on the subject of whether to become a member of*European Union*as part of the accession process, although the EU does not require any candidate country to hold a referendum to approve membership or as part of*treaty ratification. Other EU-related referendums have been held on the adoption of the*euro*and on participation in other EU-related policies.

The*United Kingdom*is the only EU member state to have held referendums on continued membership of the European Union and its antecedent organisation, the*European Communities. In the*first referendum in 1975, continued membership of what was then the*European Communities*(which included the*European Economic Community, often referred to as the*Common Market*in the UK)[nb 1]*was approved by 67.2% of voters, while in its*second referendum in 2016*voters voted by 51.9% to leave the European Union.[nb 2]
And how many of those were about EU membership or ratifying some EU treaty etc?
I rest my case. You lost again my friend.
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24-07-2020, 02:45 PM
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Re: The Non-Conformance to Single Market Rules

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Don't forget Obama interfering in the EU Referendum in 2016 by saying that the UK would be at the back of the queue for a trade deal etc.

Then there was the accusations over Aaron Banks colluding with Russia to try and influence the leave vote, only to find that there was no such interference and the whole thing was thrown out of court with no further action to be taken.

Look what happened to Darren Grimes and the accusations of him acting illegally over funding for the leave campaign - again, thrown out of court.

Gina Miller was sponsored by hundreds of thousands of pounds (around £400K) by George Soros - a non-UK resident and someone with no business presence here - no charges were made.

The Remain campaign who spent years attacking the 350 Million claim on the red bus as a "lie", who were found to have no case as the 350 million a week was actually a lower figure than we actually send (certainly so if you include all the rest of the off-book payments we make). No apologies.

Then there is the BBC - the unbiased broadcaster who deliberately tried to influence the vote in favour of remain by pumping out propaganda day in day out in forced payments by pensioners and the British public.

Remember George Osborne - he said even if we vote leave, the day after we will see the pound crash, the economy implode and up to 800,000 people out of work. It never happened.

Then there is the IMF - who repeated the doom and gloom of Osbourne. (Incidentally, the last time they said that, it was to warn us if we dared to leave the ERM - we did and nothing happened. Interestingly enough I think it was Christine Lagarde the convicted criminal now running the ECB who said it).
Bread, you forgot that prat of a Canadian, Mark Carney, that was running the Bank of England and his cronies all coming down on the Remain side too.
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24-07-2020, 03:27 PM
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Re: The Non-Conformance to Single Market Rules

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Bread, you forgot that prat of a Canadian, Mark Carney, that was running the Bank of England and his cronies all coming down on the Remain side too.
Ah yes, who could forget the lies told by that moron.

Oh well, we have a proper head of the B of E now.
 
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