Re: Energy: SMART Meters
Originally Posted by galty
The Gov has told the power supplies to get their customers to have these meters installed by 2020 in all houses.
Yeah about that. It needs qualifying. It in no way means that smart meters are mandatory. Absolutely NO-ONE needs to accept a smart meter.
Here's the clear statement on the British Gas site:
"The Government requires suppliers to roll out smart meters as standard to homes and small businesses across Britain by 2020 but there is no legal obligation on individuals to have one. At British Gas we’re committed to upgrading all our customers by taking steps to reach everyone.
What if I don’t want smart meters?
Just let us know about it. If one of our customers informs us that they’re opposed to having smart meters installed, we’ll simply take them off our roll-out list."
Worth noting also that British Gas were running a "Charter" which was hugely misleading and implied that smart meters would be compulsory. Complaints were made to OffGen who agreed that BG were being misleading.
And if anyone was at all in any doubt about whether they have to have a smart meter, this clear statement from OffGen is all they need to read. Categorically NO, NO-ONE HAS TO HAVE A SMART METER.
Originally Posted by galty
Bye the Bye to you luddits I had one put in last year and its no different either way, you just don't have some person knocking on my door...YOU still have to pay.
I'm sorry you had one put in Galty, sincerely. Whilst you may not see the difference just yet (because we are still in the roll-out period) you WILL ultimately see the changes and I'm afraid they are not going to be good.
Smart Meters are really about one thing and one thing only.
That is, TIME RELATED BILLING
i.e. There ARE going to be different charging rates for energy used at different times of the day.
Currently you just get charged for the total number of energy units used each quarter. Doesn't matter if you switched your kettle on at 1:00am, 1:00pm or any other time.
With Time Related Billing all this is going to change. The day will be divided into time zones and there will be different charging rates for the energy you use in each zone.
Can we guess which time zones will be the most expensive ones? Of course.
The "peak" time zone will be the hours from around 5pm to midnight, the time when most people come home from work, put the kettle on, cook dinner, watch TV and so on.
Where you currently use say X number of units each evening, you will suddenly be charged 2 or 3 times the amount for those same X units in that peak period.
It will almost not matter at all what energy you use at different times of the day because the amount you will be stung for in that peak time zone will vastly outweigh all the rest of your energy usage.
Your energy bills will, in this way, double or triple over time.
This is why smart meters are being rolled out. They enable the energy companies (and all related capitalist cronies) to earn literally £billions more in revenues from unfortunate customers, whilst at the same time they reduce the company's overheads (no need for meter readings etc).
There is nothing, literally nothing for you the hapless customer here. You'll get a device strapped to your house irradiating you and your family 24x7, you'll have energy companies tracking all of your energy usage (and they know what type of devices you are using from the signals) and will generate a profile of your usage. You'll have hugely inflated bills.
Worst of all, YOU will have no idea whatsoever whether your smart meter is recording things correctly or not. It's no longer a case of just looking at a number on the meter box. It's about units used at every different minute of the day.
They could bill you absolutely anything, and even if it seemed high to you, you wouldn't be able to contest it.
Customers will lose £billions, energy companies will make £billions.
Like I said, I'm sincerely sorry you fell for the scam.
There's no going back to an old meter I'm afraid.