11-12-2011, 06:44 PM
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I'm not so sure that becoming isolated from the EU and Europe is going to be a beneficial thing for us long term. We are Europeans not just the British nation.I don't pretend to understand the complexities of the EU machine and think that the EU is riddled with petty beurocracies and has many problems to get to grips with - Things are very messy and equity between countries is not easy to achieve and may not be possible. However, whether we like it or not I believe to be successful our destinies must be entwined. I am a bit concerned at the thought that we are going to be isolated. I think we need to be joined together with the rest of Europe. We have a common ancestry and are Europeans. I also think that Cameron is far too interested in keeping his own party happy.
11-12-2011, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Aerolor
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We are Europeans not just the British nation.
11-12-2011, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammer
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Well I was born English and will stay English until I expire which when I look at what is happening around me, mercifully will not be too far away.
11-12-2011, 07:35 PM
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Wonder if Neil Kinnock and Glenda , also Tony Blair will be sacked by Europe, hope so.Never wanted to join with them in the first place, I am Anglo Irish, not british or European.This makes it a bit difficult but have to say I am more Irish than English, its in your blood and oh boy do I have some Rows with Joe who is Irish.11-12-2011, 07:51 PM
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Well we look like we are damned if we do and damned if we don't.Maybe we should run for cover before we get choked to death will all the red tape.
How many times have we heard how we can't do certain things because of Brussels and red tape.
Cameron is trying to protect our interests by not giving over the control to Brussels that it wants involving the London financial market.
What I don't like is what is becoming more and more apparent and that is the two partners in crime Merkel and Sarkozy who are taking centre stage and controlling the whole shooting match.
The lesser countries are going like lambs to the slaughter.
Bailed out countries won't have control of there own governments with the new drawn up treaties as these are the conditions of the bail outs and how many more are lining up!
The planning of a two tiered Europe and plans for us to go in the second tier.
Where would that put us then!
In the waiting room waiting to see how much more red tape the big guns Germany and France are going to bind our wrists with.
That little puppet Sarkozy sugaring up to Merkel had better watch his back as she could see him off when he has outlived his usefulness.
It's making me feel very uncomfortable.
11-12-2011, 10:46 PM
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Time to create the Republic of East Lancashire and pull up the drawbridge.We are already self sufficient in most things.
The first priority will be to keep the Yorkies out and to this end the Trawden Road border post will be manned round the clock. There will also be secret checkpoints in several other key positions to prevent any cross border incursions.
In the other direction, the Ramsbottom contingent of The Black Pudding Brigade report only sporadic attempts to scale Holcombe Hill and the Peel Tower. These have been dealt with no casualties and the minimum use of the Tripe Torpedo Grenades.
12-12-2011, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Aerolor
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I'm not so sure that becoming isolated from the EU and Europe is going to be a beneficial thing for us long term. We are Europeans not just the British nation. I don't pretend to understand the complexities of the EU machine and think that the EU is riddled with petty beurocracies and has many problems to get to grips with - Things are very messy and equity between countries is not easy to achieve and may not be possible. However, whether we like it or not I believe to be successful our destinies must be entwined. I am a bit concerned at the thought that we are going to be isolated. I think we need to be joined together with the rest of Europe. We have a common ancestry and are Europeans. I also think that Cameron is far too interested in keeping his own party happy.
I too have been listening to Nigel Farage of late, as I feel the 3 main parties have nothing to say to the people of this country I feel he may just be the voice we have been waiting for, I would welcome him as a leader as I would welcome England out of the EU rabble altogether.
12-12-2011, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Hammer
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Time to create the Republic of East Lancashire and pull up the drawbridge.We are already self sufficient in most things.
The first priority will be to keep the Yorkies out and to this end the Trawden Road border post will be manned round the clock. There will also be secret checkpoints in several other key positions to prevent any cross border incursions.
In the other direction, the Ramsbottom contingent of The Black Pudding Brigade report only sporadic attempts to scale Holcombe Hill and the Peel Tower. These have been dealt with no casualties and the minimum use of the Tripe Torpedo Grenades.
12-12-2011, 08:47 PM
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What worries me is how powerful France and Germany are becoming.We've been isolated by them before and never came to harm.
Britain should stand back for a few years, let them fight over Europe, we'll still be standing and trading with them. They'll do themselves more harm by trying to give Britain the cold shoulder.
I'm an English woman, certainly not a European.
And please.......can we have feet and inches and pounds and ounces back.
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