19-05-2019, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch
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Simple solution. Insurancebased health care. Everybody here must take out insurance. If you go to a health care provider for the first time you have to show your insurance card, and identification. Easy.
Good idea, not how it "works" here though, you just turn up and treatment is free.
19-05-2019, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray Cathode
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Good idea, not how it "works" here though, you just turn up and treatment is free.
19-05-2019, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch
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Has advantages. My wife was at the cenotaph remembrance, november last year. Got problems with her heart (she's heart patient). Aid was offered by medical personel. No questions asked about insurance etc.
I agree, great health system, but is it sustainable and would it have been reciprocated in the low countries and does it depend or should it require EU membership
19-05-2019, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray Cathode
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I agree, great health system, but is it sustainable and would it have been reciprocated in the low countries and does it depend or should it require EU membership
Sustainability of the system is firstly about making (political) choices. Do you want good health care or a new rail with trains traveling fast, so passengers gain 20 minutes on a 3 hour journey?
In emergency situations medical support is always given, so yes reciprocated. Fincial aspect? Presently in the EU via EHIC the cost are compensated. When UK leaves the EU, I don't know.
Should good cooperation on health care require EU membership? No of course not. But it seems easier to realise when there are existing connections.
19-05-2019, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch
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Do you want good health care or a new rail with trains traveling fast, so passengers gain 20 minutes on a 3 hour journey?
As with most Britons I want a good health service and have no interest in HS2, in fact I don't want HS2 but I do want a better rail service.
20-05-2019, 08:20 AM
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I had to laugh at Solasch suggestion of having private health care.Been there, done that, no T shirt though. As we got older, the cost rose so that we had to drop it, and instead built our own ‘slush fund’ for if and when we needed private medical care.
As there is just myself now, I expect that I can still go private if needed. I am just lucky that I can still afford it.
20-05-2019, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Solasch
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Simple solution. Insurancebased health care. Everybody here must take out insurance. If you go to a health care provider for the first time you have to show your insurance card, and identification. Easy.
the UK pays what is called National insurance! Which is
supposed to cover, health, pension and other benefits!
Years ago this system worked, why it is struggling now l
cant say, although l have suspicions?
However, l believe this thread was titled brexit v ukip? Not
Religion and society?
Best regards Donkeyman !
20-05-2019, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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Every working person in the UK pays what is called National insurance! Which is supposed to cover, health, pension and other benefits!Years ago this system worked, why it is struggling now l cant say, although l have suspicions?
More people benefiting from handouts.
Simple.
Now back to 'Brexit or UKIP'.
20-05-2019, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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Solly, the NHS is insurance based! every working person inthe UK pays what is called National insurance! Which is
supposed to cover, health, pension and other benefits!
Years ago this system worked, why it is struggling now l
cant say, although l have suspicions?
However, l believe this thread was titled brexit v ukip? Not
Religion and society?
Best regards Donkeyman !
National security is what we had for health care till everybody had to take out individual insurance. All thanks to the gulf of privatisation of public services instigated by mother thatcher.
As I said, our system has certain advantiges, but I can give you a list of disadvantiges.
This is linked to brexit/EU in that the UK was a member of the EU and everybody was watching in admiration at mrs thatcher who so miraculously solved many an economic problem by selling out to the market security you had for energy, health and old age.
Almost every other EEC member followed her example.
Is the EU helping in any way to ameliorate the negative effects? I don't know. What I do know is that our regional gas/electricity supplier is now swedish owned.
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