21-07-2020, 06:59 AM
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Dr.Fauci on Covid
Certainly food for thought....From Dr. Fauci.
“Chickenpox is a virus. Lots of people have had it, and probably don't think about it much once the initial illness has passed. But it stays in your body and lives there forever, and maybe when you're older, you have debilitatingly painful outbreaks of shingles. You don't just get over this virus in a few weeks, never to have another health effect. We know this because it's been around for years, and has been studied medically for years.
Herpes is also a virus. And once someone has it, it stays in your body and lives there forever, and anytime they get a little run down or stressed-out they're going to have an outbreak. Maybe every time you have a big event coming up (school pictures, job interview, big date) you're going to get a cold sore. For the rest of your life. You don't just get over it in a few weeks. We know this because it's been around for years, and been studied medically for years.
HIV is a virus. It attacks the immune system and makes the carrier far more vulnerable to other illnesses. It has a list of symptoms and negative health impacts that goes on and on. It was decades before viable treatments were developed that allowed people to live with a reasonable quality of life. Once you have it, it lives in your body forever and there is no cure. Over time, that takes a toll on the body, putting people living with HIV at greater risk for health conditions such as cardiovascular disease, kidney disease, diabetes, bone disease, liver disease, cognitive disorders, and some types of cancer. We know this because it has been around for years, and had been studied medically for years.
Now with COVID-19, we have a novel virus that spreads rapidly and easily. The full spectrum of symptoms and health effects is only just beginning to be cataloged, much less understood.
So far the symptoms may include:
Fever
Fatigue
Coughing
Pneumonia
Chills/Trembling
Acute respiratory distress
Lung damage (potentially permanent)
Loss of taste (a neurological symptom)
Sore throat
Headaches
Difficulty breathing
Mental confusion
Diarrhea
Nausea or vomiting
Loss of appetite
Strokes have also been reported in some people who have COVID-19 (even in the relatively young)
Swollen eyes
Blood clots
Seizures
Liver damage
Kidney damage
Rash
COVID toes (weird, right?)
People testing positive for COVID-19 have been documented to be sick even after 60 days. Many people are sick for weeks, get better, and then experience a rapid and sudden flare up and get sick all over again. A man in Seattle was hospitalized for 62 days, and while well enough to be released, still has a long road of recovery ahead of him. Not to mention a $1.1 million medical bill.
Then there is MIS-C. Multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children is a condition where different body parts can become inflamed, including the heart, lungs, kidneys, brain, skin, eyes, or gastrointestinal organs. Children with MIS-C may have a fever and various symptoms, including abdominal pain, vomiting, diarrhea, neck pain, rash, bloodshot eyes, or feeling extra tired. While rare, it has caused deaths.
This disease has not been around for years. It has basically been 6 months. No one knows yet the long-term health effects, or how it may present itself years down the road for people who have been exposed. We literally *do not know* what we do not know.
For those in our society who suggest that people being cautious are cowards, for people who refuse to take even the simplest of precautions to protect themselves and those around them, I want to ask, without hyperbole and in all sincerity:
How dare you?
How dare you risk the lives of others so cavalierly. How dare you decide for others that they should welcome exposure as "getting it over with", when literally no one knows who will be the lucky "mild symptoms" case, and who may fall ill and die. Because while we know that some people are more susceptible to suffering a more serious case, we also know that 20 and 30-year-olds have died, marathon runners and fitness nuts have died, children and infants have died.
How dare you behave as though you know more than medical experts, when those same experts acknowledge that there is so much we don't yet know, but with what we DO know, are smart enough to be scared of how easily this is spread, and recommend baseline precautions such as:
Frequent hand-washing
Physical distancing
Reduced social/public contact or interaction
Mask wearing
Covering your cough or sneeze
Avoiding touching your face
Sanitizing frequently touched surfaces
The more things we can all do to mitigate our risk of exposure, the better off we all are, in my opinion. Not only does it flatten the curve and allow health care providers to maintain levels of service that aren't immediately and catastrophically overwhelmed; it also reduces unnecessary suffering and deaths, and buys time for the scientific community to study the virus in order to come to a more full understanding of the breadth of its impacts in both the short and long term.
I reject the notion that it's "just a virus" and we'll all get it eventually. What a careless, lazy, heartless stance.”
21-07-2020, 11:43 AM
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Did he go to the same school as Greta, or is he just copying her style with his 'How Dare You!'He's right about a couple of things: Yes it's a new virus and the long term effects have not yet been displayed or assessed. He's also right about taking the best precautions you can to prevent catching Covid and spreading it to others.
However, nobody I know is taking this lightly or calling people who chose to wear masks and observing social distancing cowards. We are all responsible for our own health and wellbeing, and the way you choose to protect yourself is a personal decision. I resent being challenged this way by either him or Greta.
Dr Faust! you have conveniently lumped together several viruses that have affected humans over the last hundred years (or when records began) and compared them to the covid19 virus to give your argument legs, but in your own words you admit that we know sod all about this new virus. I had Chicken Pox as a child, and at a time in my life when I was subject to an unusual large helping of stress I developed Shingles. I recovered, but had I not had Chicken Pox as a child it could have killed me.
Lots of people suffer from Herpes, and apart from painful cold sores occasionally in times of stress it has no other effect. Herpes is also contracted by a transfer of bodily fluids and not airborne spores as Covid is. Aids/HIV is also transferred by bodily fluids and attacks the immune system. The only thing these illnesses have in common is that they are all viruses. You might as well have listed TB, Hepatitis, Cholera or some other debilitating disease in your quest to strike fear into Joe public.
Providing they are not breaking the law people have a perfect right to do as they see fit, whether it be going to the beach or protesting about some issue in London. They know the risks and are prepared to take them, and 'how dare' anyone, take away their freedom of choice and put the onus on them by passing on their fear and paranoia. Go and get a life Dr Faust and stop threatening people, if you don't want to catch the virus wear a mask, stay at home, and advise people the best way to protect yourself and others, but don't bloody threaten people. We are not naughty kids at school, and you are just another jumped up lab rat in a long list of jumped up lab rats who think they can take on the roll of God......
21-07-2020, 12:54 PM
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Barry, I agree fully agree with that message and I follow all the instructions. Yes, I agree it is selfish of others to do their own thing rather than follow the precautions. It sounds like a case of "Blow you Jack, I'm alright", a selfish attitude to the vulnerable people.We are still awaiting the results of our daughter's blood test for suspected coronavirus. She has been suffering with her breathing, coughing and extreme fatigue for over 4 months now and I feel guilty that she put herself at risk back in March when she insisted we stay indoors and she would do all our shopping for us until we managed to get online deliveries.
Here's hoping this message will make people rethink their attitude
21-07-2020, 03:16 PM
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Apparently even Dr Faust has changed his mind now.....
Nicky P (@cravecreative) tweeted at 3:42 am on Tue, Jul 21, 2020:
Imagine Fauci saying masks weren't necessary. Oh wait...
https://t.co/lMEb8W8veg
(https://twitter.com/cravecreative/st...084964865?s=09)
https://twitter.com/i/status/1283503409216262153
21-07-2020, 04:51 PM
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You're bang-on-the-money, Barry; and so is the good doc.Trump is a fool who just dismisses everything piece of data or opinion he doesn't like - including sound medical prognoses - as "fake news". That idiot running Brazil does likewise - even though he (like Johnson) has come down with a dose of it. Unbelievable.
Back here in Blighty, Boris Johnson & his chums are really taking it to the wire by prioritising politics / economics ahead of sound medical and scientific opinion.
The jury's still out - for now.
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