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22-10-2019, 06:26 PM
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Re: Peak District anglers dangerously close to huge plug hole

Originally Posted by Judd ->
Isn't a rope thrown across the reservoir at water level a physical barrier?
No. It needs to be a thing to impede access to the known risk
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Whatever you put there, someone will ignore it, then get upset when they are dead.
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Re: Peak District anglers dangerously close to huge plug hole

Originally Posted by Longdogs ->
Whatever you put there, someone will ignore it, then get upset when they are dead.
If a person deliberately overrides or disables a barrier that normally prevents them from being exposed to a risk then it becomes their fault.
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Re: Peak District anglers dangerously close to huge plug hole

Does it go all the way to Australia?
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Re: Peak District anglers dangerously close to huge plug hole

Originally Posted by omah ->
“stupid is as stupid does”

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Re: Peak District anglers dangerously close to huge plug hole

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
Stupid yes, but there really should be some form of physical safety barrier in place.
There does seem to be some sort of concrete rim to it, Artful.
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24-10-2019, 09:12 AM
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Re: Peak District anglers dangerously close to huge plug hole

Is this the place where 'they' drowned a village?
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24-10-2019, 10:35 AM
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Re: Peak District anglers dangerously close to huge plug hole

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Is this the place where 'they' drowned a village?
Not quite Tabby, the reservoir that appears in the recent photographs containing the plugholes is the Ladybower reservoir, it merges with the Derwent reservoir just under and t'other side of the Ashopton Viaduct. The Derwent reservoir is where the flooded village of 'Derwent' lies. In periods of drought it is possible to see foundations in the bottom of the reservoir, after spending most of my adult life running and walking the area I have seen these foundations on many occasions.

It is rumoured that the old church was left standing but the sound of the bell ringing upset the locals, so the army was called to demolish the bell tower....
Incidentally, the plug holes only contain water on just a few occasions throughout the year when the reservoir is full of water in excessive rainy periods. It is quite rare to find them in full drain mode.

Three reservoirs were built along the derwent valley to tame the river Derwent, The Howden, the Derwent and the Ladybower. There is some splendid flat walking or running to be done on mostly excellent footpaths from the cafe and cycle hire area at Fairholme, and a complete traverse of the Howden and Derwent reservoirs adds up to around fifteen miles and provided brilliant training for most of my marathons and fell runs, sometimes completing two laps.....30 miles...

All of this is from memory, so I'll bet an in depth study of the area would be found on google.....
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24-10-2019, 10:57 AM
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Re: Peak District anglers dangerously close to huge plug hole

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
Well not really. By placing notices and putting a rope around the thing shows that a hazard was known to exist, that it was recognised as such, but that it was not provided with the means to protect the public and so any injury as a consequence would result in prosecution under H&S legislation.

In things such as this " their own own fault for ignoring it" would not be acceptable. If there was physical barrier that someone climbed over MIGHT offer some defence. Might.
Looking at the construction Todgy it only becomes a danger
when the dam is 105% full?
So how many days a year does it attain this condition?
I agree a simple railing around the perimeter would suffice and
would not impair the function of the structure?
The other option is to ban all human activities on the dam, which
I assume is drinking water, and so should be protected from
pollution?? Sorry OGF!
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26-10-2019, 05:13 AM
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Re: Peak District anglers dangerously close to huge plug hole

Originally Posted by OldGreyFox ->
Not quite Tabby, the reservoir that appears in the recent photographs containing the plugholes is the Ladybower reservoir, it merges with the Derwent reservoir just under and t'other side of the Ashopton Viaduct. The Derwent reservoir is where the flooded village of 'Derwent' lies. In periods of drought it is possible to see foundations in the bottom of the reservoir, after spending most of my adult life running and walking the area I have seen these foundations on many occasions.

It is rumoured that the old church was left standing but the sound of the bell ringing upset the locals, so the army was called to demolish the bell tower....
Incidentally, the plug holes only contain water on just a few occasions throughout the year when the reservoir is full of water in excessive rainy periods. It is quite rare to find them in full drain mode.

Three reservoirs were built along the derwent valley to tame the river Derwent, The Howden, the Derwent and the Ladybower. There is some splendid flat walking or running to be done on mostly excellent footpaths from the cafe and cycle hire area at Fairholme, and a complete traverse of the Howden and Derwent reservoirs adds up to around fifteen miles and provided brilliant training for most of my marathons and fell runs, sometimes completing two laps.....30 miles...

All of this is from memory, so I'll bet an in depth study of the area would be found on google.....
Thank you, Foxy. Who needs google when we have you!
 
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