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16-01-2019, 12:40 PM
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Re: Teresa May is voted down .

Hi

There is an alternative to No Deal, it has been offered.

A simple WTO Trade Deal, meets all our red lines and is how the likes of Japan, Canada and 40 others trade with the EU.

It is also exactly what we are seeking with others.

Even JRM said it was acceptable to him on TV this morning.

May has consistently refused it.
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16-01-2019, 03:43 PM
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Re: Teresa May is voted down .

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

There is an alternative to No Deal, it has been offered.

A simple WTO Trade Deal, meets all our red lines and is how the likes of Japan, Canada and 40 others trade with the EU.

It is also exactly what we are seeking with others.

Even JRM said it was acceptable to him on TV this morning.

May has consistently refused it.

No they don't SF.
Both those you mentioned have just signed FTA's with the EU and Japan's comes on stream on Feb 1. Canada's is already operating.
There is not ONE nation in the WTO which trades solely by WTO rules. They ALL have other bilateral deals they have negotiated.

In addition I don't think the discussions about UK quotas as part of EU quotas have been settled and until they are, your schedules will be the highest tariffs of all. Other nations will want to make you as uncompetitive as possible.

Now why would you want to leave a reconciliation panel like the ECJ where you have an equal voice and put yourself under a far larger panel where you have a far smaller voice?

and finally since the EU is all but self sufficient and can call upon supplies and sales to its own members plus 40 other nations with which they have an FTA plus others with special agreements, this assuring that they REALLY do not need you, how is this going to assure the bright new future you envisage?
You had better bloody hope you get an FTA with the EU.
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16-01-2019, 03:48 PM
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Re: Teresa May is voted down .

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No they don't SF.
Both those you mentioned have just signed FTA's with the EU and Japan's comes on stream on Feb 1. Canada's is already operating.
There is not ONE nation in the WTO which trades solely by WTO rules. They ALL have other bilateral deals they have negotiated.

In addition I don't think the discussions about UK quotas as part of EU quotas have been settled and until they are, your schedules will be the highest tariffs of all. Other nations will want to make you as uncompetitive as possible.

Now why would you want to leave a reconciliation panel like the ECJ where you have an equal voice and put yourself under a far larger panel where you have a far smaller voice?

and finally since the EU is all but self sufficient and can call upon supplies and sales to its own members plus 40 other nations with which they have an FTA plus others with special agreements, this assuring that they REALLY do not need you, how is this going to assure the bright new future you envisage?
You had better bloody hope you get an FTA with the EU.
Hi

Read my post instead of jumping off the deep end.
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17-01-2019, 01:18 PM
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Re: Teresa May is voted down .

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May was instructed by Parliament to bring her Plan B within 3 days.

She is still playing games, even after her massive defeat.

She brings it to Parliament on Monday but will not allow any debate or vote on it until the 29th January.

This is appalling, her plan was voted down by leavers and remainers together and she still insists on getting her own way.

She needs to go.
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17-01-2019, 05:09 PM
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Re: Teresa May is voted down .

Originally Posted by Dextrous63 ->
I suspect that, now that all bluffs have been called, a new deal will be forged in the nick of time which will be sufficient to appease both sides.

But we wait and see. It's one mightily odd situation.
Seems you might be right Dex. A new plan B has suddenly appeared. It's a bit like when your car insurance is set to increase by 10% but as a special deal they only put it up 5%. Everyone's a 'winner' despite the fact it has gone up.
 
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