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In a war, everyone is a criminal, aren't they.
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24-03-2019, 11:29 PM
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The Geneva Conventions were established in order to limit harm to noncombatants. Even if Dresden was a railway hub, which it wasn't to any extent, that did not justify the war crime of totally devastating an entire city and its inhabitants.
There are no rules in war, no country would accept defeat it had the means to prevent it.....The winners write the rules, and the history.
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Ah, I see.

So you're perfectly happy with Hitler deliberately bombing cities throughout Britain and, of course, that wonderful V2 weapon that arrived completely silently giving absolutely no warning of what was to happen.

That's nice.

Now, how about Queen Victoria. What did she keep under her skirt, I wonder? Poison gas? Bacterial weapons?
They were atrocities. JBR. But as you say, were. justified by
the fact that were. attacked first. and. were. at war, not. just
playing game.
The Germans deserved all. that. they. got. IMO.
I. see my predictive. text. has. gone. retroactive, l am. sorry!

Good. night. to. you,. Donkeyman.
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24-03-2019, 11:35 PM
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Re: A take on Winston Churchill

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
The Geneva Conventions were established in order to limit harm to noncombatants. Even if Dresden was a railway hub, which it wasn't to any extent, that did not justify the war crime of totally devastating an entire city and its inhabitants.
Live. by. sword. Die. by. the. sword!

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25-03-2019, 12:46 AM
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To be fair the deliberate bombing of civilian areas by the Axis didn't ever become SOP unlike the Brits. Indeed it was the proven accidental release of its bomb load by a German aircraft that gave Churchill the excuse he needed to start spilling innocent German blood. It is also on record they Her Shicklgruber specifically ordered that bombing was to avoid civilian areas and concentrate on strategic high value assets. what.

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Obviously it didn't take much spilling of innocent Deutsches volk blut before it became a case of quid pro quo but it was Churchill wot started it guv.
Now I understand.

What we should have done after the German bomber unintentionally dropped its load on London was to send a nice letter to that nice Mr Hitler explaining that we quite understand, and that mistakes are made.

All our fault, of course. Aren't we despicable people, wanting to defend ourselves against a foreign power wishing to take over the rule of this country?

Oh, hang on a minute... we're doing it again with this naughty Brexit thing, aren't we?
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25-03-2019, 12:51 AM
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The Geneva Conventions were established in order to limit harm to noncombatants.
Funny about all those non-combatant Jews being gassed to death, wasn't it?
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25-03-2019, 12:53 AM
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Live. by. sword. Die. by. the. sword!

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You're going to run out of full stops if you keep this up!
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25-03-2019, 01:00 AM
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The policies adopted by British colonists that included killing of indigenous people who got in the way yet were never brought before the courts in the UK because of the actual let alone tacit approval of Victoria and her Establishment is evidence enough that as head of the Establishment she was in a position to change things but did not and so must carry the can.

QED.
I seem to remember that Queen Victoria was, like our present queen, removed from any political decisions.

Perhaps you might want to change the precise targets of your wish to blame as many British leaders for as many possible evil deeds that you can bring to mind.

I do think you'll probably meet with more success if you go after certain foreign leaders.
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25-03-2019, 07:31 AM
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I seem to remember that Queen Victoria was, like our present queen, removed from any political decisions.

Perhaps you might want to change the precise targets of your wish to blame as many British leaders for as many possible evil deeds that you can bring to mind.

I do think you'll probably meet with more success if you go after certain foreign leaders.
Victoria was renowned for her involvement in the government of the day as was Albert. Check it out.
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25-03-2019, 01:13 PM
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Victoria was renowned for her involvement in the government of the day as was Albert. Check it out.
Really? Well that would explain why we were the world's great super-power in those days then.

Solution: replace May with Victoria, or at least someone like her. Thatcher? Oh no, she's dead too, isn't she?

No suitable leader = we remain a third-world nation!
 
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