22-01-2019, 10:24 PM
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Re: Brexit - Can you ever please both sides?
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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I would say that when the referendum was held nobody realised that the Irish question would be a wildcard in the future of Britain.
Maybe if you sorry Remainers had spent more time telling people why it would be good staying in the EU instead of simply running Project Fear and telling people why it would be bad to Leave the EU, you might have got more support . . . . !
Oh well, too late now. You had your chance, and frankly blew it.
23-01-2019, 12:52 PM
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Re: Brexit - Can you ever please both sides?
Originally Posted by JBR
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It should indeed, but it isn't, at least not yet.Perhaps one reason that it isn't is that our young snowflakes have been successfully brainwashed into believing that the EU is our saviour and that all will be perfect if only we can remain under its wings.
Our own politicians, along with left wing academics and big businessmen (each for different reasons, I would say) are responsible for that.
If we do end up remaining, these same young snowflakes will see, before too long, how stupid they have been.
Every day they are throwing logs across the tracks (in the shape of parliament motions) which are gleefully prioritised by the Berk, in order to cause delays and swing public interest into the dustbins.
23-01-2019, 01:55 PM
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Re: Brexit - Can you ever please both sides?
Originally Posted by Tedc
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I don't think we need worry about snowflakes (unless you're on the road today), the real issue, for me, is the Members of Parliament and the freedom which they have now, (and it's still growing), to work against the wishes of the voter.Every day they are throwing logs across the tracks (in the shape of parliament motions) which are gleefully prioritised by the Berk, in order to cause delays and swing public interest into the dustbins.
It must be almost universally known by now that our current crop of MPs are more interested in themselves than us and the country as a whole.
I look forward to the next GE. They can't keep kicking that into the long grass.
23-01-2019, 02:16 PM
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Re: Brexit - Can you ever please both sides?
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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If voters controlled the way things are done we would have mob rule and anarchy.
Can't see how you can blame the voters!
23-01-2019, 03:48 PM
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Re: Brexit - Can you ever please both sides?
Originally Posted by Tedc
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If we do get mob rule and/or anarchy surely that will have been caused by the incompetence of the organisers - or maybe because the people become more angry at the way their wishes are being trampled upon.Can't see how you can blame the voters!
23-01-2019, 03:57 PM
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Re: Brexit - Can you ever please both sides?
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Mob rule has no place in a civilised society where you have law and order. There are plenty of world examples of what happens when you move in that direction. It never works out well for citizens.
Essentially you already have mob rule. It's just that it is a small but extremely powerful mob, masquerading as government and which is really just an arm of the larger Common Purpose pyramid hell bent on its own agendas which doesn't care one jot about the will of the people.
23-01-2019, 04:01 PM
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Re: Brexit - Can you ever please both sides?
Originally Posted by Realist
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Unfortunately you can not have a civilised society when the elected officials don't follow law and order or the country's established constitution and instead just embark on their own agendas, esp when said agendas involve destroying the sovereignty of the country itself and the nationality of every citizen, without so much as a referendum on the changes.Essentially you already have mob rule. It's just that it is a small but extremely powerful mob, masquerading as government and which is really just an arm of the larger Common Purpose pyramid hell bent on its own agendas which doesn't care one jot about the will of the people.
23-01-2019, 05:04 PM
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Re: Brexit - Can you ever please both sides?
You can say it as often as you like Annie if it makes you feel good but the facts remain and are indisputable.We have an unelected group of people who for the past 40 years have operated by stealth and skulduggery to sell this country down the river into a foreign power. They have wilfully ignored our most fundamental constitutional elements such as the Declaration of Rights and subverted due process, never giving the populous a referendum on whether they wanted the sovereignty of their country abolished or their nationality or culture.
THAT IS a form of anarchy. It is "absence of government and absolute freedom of the individual, regarded as a political ideal"
In this case the individuals imo were the Common Purpose operatives working behind closed doors in complete freedom using the guise of government to achieve their ends. They have acted unconstitutionally and against the interests of the country and its people.
That situation has to be rectified before the country can repair the damage caused.
Perhaps if we just ask them to stop doing it they will cease?. . . . .
Do you reckon?
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