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Being like Norway or Switzerland etc was being bandied about by commentators at the time. No deal wasn't.
And it is still possible:

The future relationship will be based on a balance of rights and obligations, taking into
account the principles of each Party. This balance must ensure the autonomy of the Union’s
decision making and be consistent with the Union’s principles, in particular with respect to
the integrity of the Single Market and the Customs Union and the indivisibility of the four
freedoms. It must also ensure the sovereignty of the United Kingdom and the protection of
its internal market, while respecting the result of the 2016 referendum including with
regard to the development of its independent trade policy and the ending of free movement
of people between the Union and the United Kingdom.

Text from the political declaration that goes with the withdrawal agreement. First you settle the bill of outstanding obligations, then you start trade negotiations. It is still possible.....
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...al-declaration
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02-10-2019, 02:49 PM
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No it wasn't - your making things up.

It was 52/48 in favour of leave.
1.89% is hardly anything to write home about. Nigel said that if the vote went the other way by the same % he'd challenge it.

Anyway it's by the by. Main point is that's why it's so contentious.
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02-10-2019, 03:39 PM
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The majority of remain voters accept the result, they just do not accept that result meant no deal. The process was to agree a deal in the last three years. If the negotiators didn't want a deal to start with then of course their hearts were not in it and David Davis turning up to a meeting with an empty briefcase sums that up. If many leavers do not accept that we should have a deal with the EU then that is why there is such a divide. They are our biggest trading partners. Trade should not be an emotional matter. You make agreements with trading partners, you do not walk away in a huff.
You have a short memory AnnieS, DD was not allowed to do
any negotiating by the appeaser May, she cut the ground from
under his feet! She did the same to two more brexit secs!
Thats why they all resigned? The same thing is going on right
now with the whole HOC! The reason another referendum wont
work is because it will not remove the remainer blockage as
I have allready bexplained! Only an election can do that!
I would accept an election result with no argument, but not
another referendum, why should l? look at yourselves right
now, you are all a disgrace to this country!!!

Donkeyman!
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02-10-2019, 04:36 PM
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You have a short memory AnnieS, DD was not allowed to do
any negotiating by the appeaser May, she cut the ground from
under his feet! She did the same to two more brexit secs!
Thats why they all resigned? The same thing is going on right
now with the whole HOC! The reason another referendum wont
work is because it will not remove the remainer blockage as
I have allready bexplained! Only an election can do that!
I would accept an election result with no argument, but not
another referendum, why should l? look at yourselves right
now, you are all a disgrace to this country!!!

Donkeyman!
Firstly the voting public never accept an election result if they voted otherwise. The opposition spend the next few years attacking the winners. So this is not new.

Secondly leave mps never had an interest in a deal because no deal was their aim. So if no deal was agreed it's because David Davis turned up with his empty briefcase intending to do nothing.
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02-10-2019, 04:39 PM
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Re: Katie Hopkins in the Supreme Court

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1.89% is hardly anything to write home about. Nigel said that if the vote went the other way by the same % he'd challenge it.

Anyway it's by the by. Main point is that's why it's so contentious.
And since the HoC invoked article 50, a moot point. But those in the know of real facts (your parliamentarians) chose to remain. In the interest of the country.
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02-10-2019, 08:16 PM
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Re: Katie Hopkins in the Supreme Court

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Like i said remain accept the (marginal) result but not no deal. Leave only want no deal. So it's lose lose.
Actually your wrong. It is a myth drummed up by the tabloid press. Leavers just want to leave the EU, how that is achieved they do not care, they just want to leave.

Ex PM Ms May coined the term 'No Deal' when she made a speech about how the negotiations were going with the EU on finding ground on terms to leave the EU which Ms May replied 'No deal is better than a bad deal', hence No Deal brexit was born.
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02-10-2019, 08:28 PM
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Re: Katie Hopkins in the Supreme Court

Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
1.89% is hardly anything to write home about. Nigel said that if the vote went the other way by the same % he'd challenge it.

Anyway it's by the by. Main point is that's why it's so contentious.

You lost.
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02-10-2019, 09:46 PM
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Re: Katie Hopkins in the Supreme Court

Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
Firstly the voting public never accept an election result if they voted otherwise. The opposition spend the next few years attacking the winners. So this is not new.

Secondly leave mps never had an interest in a deal because no deal was their aim. So if no deal was agreed it's because David Davis turned up with his empty briefcase intending to do nothing.
You make a lot of assumptions about the voting public AnnieS
We never knew what we were voting for!
We never accept a result if we lose, etc etc!
Who are you to cast these judgements on us?
Have you ever seen or heard such shyte taking place before
now? I dont think so?
Where 80% of parliament are actively engaged in subverting
the majority decision of the people ie( democracy )By any and
All means possible, including passing makeshift laws at short
notice to prevent the lawful implementation of the peoples
will! In other times it would be called treason?
Thats the stuff that monarchs and dictators used to do and
And YOU agree with it!!
This would not have happened if TM had not given away her
majority, l have wondered if she did it purposely as she was
such a remainer at heart??

Regards Donkeyman!
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02-10-2019, 10:20 PM
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Re: Katie Hopkins in the Supreme Court

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This prorogation was no different to any other. The supreme court just made up a law to suit it's own agenda.
Back again with the conspiracies to support your narrative. It happens every single time with leavers who flat refuse to accept the prorogation was unlawful. Of course it was different to others for a whole host of reasons but if you can't admit that then there isn't much I can say that will make you believe otherwise.
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02-10-2019, 10:35 PM
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Back again with the conspiracies to support your narrative. It happens every single time with leavers who flat refuse to accept the prorogation was unlawful. Of course it was different to others for a whole host of reasons but if you can't admit that then there isn't much I can say that will make you believe otherwise.
If the judges needed to make up a law to get their way it stands to reason they have meddled with the unwritten constitution.

Remainers will use whichever 'facts' or 'evidence' will justify their narrative. That is undeniable.
The efficacy of that alleged evidence does not concern them.

None of it trumps the most undeniable of facts that Remain lost the referendum and Brexit we must.
 
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