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27-08-2020, 09:26 PM
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Apparently Blake had a rap sheet as long as your arm and was well known to the police. So he wasn't a vicar who wanted nothing more than to help children and old ladies across the road and donate his wages to charity.....
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27-08-2020, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
Resisting arrest to begin with.
From what l saw Todgy he was only AVOIDING arrest not
actually resisting??
Just as you say the victim APPEARED to be under the influence!!

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27-08-2020, 10:09 PM
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His parents seem to be pretty decent types.
It’s easy to vilify someone when we don’t know all the circumstances .
However I still think the police acted in a brutal and unnecessary fashion .
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27-08-2020, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Surfermom ->
It remains is unclear whether Blake was the man for which the police were called for violating a restraining order, or whether, as some claim, that he was trying to de-escalate the situation.

Regardless of whether or not he just was there to help or was violating a restraining order, he broke the law when he resisted arrest.

If the children or the officer was at risk, then at the moment of the shooting the crime would also include assault (threat) with a deadly weapon.

The argument for the shots fired were Blakes alleged possession of a weapon when he reached for something in the car, and another officer shouting, "He has a knife!" (Blake has since admitted that he did indeed have a knife). The second rationale is that the Blake's children were in danger.

The question of course, is who was at risk and whether or not the officer was excessive in using the force in arresting Blake, especially in the number of shots that were fired.

The Department of Justice was on this case immediately.

Well the children were definitely at risk Surfermom,, from the 7
bullets that the cop fired and the possible richochets around the
inside of the car ??
Nobody has answered my question about the associated killings
of two people by a white teenager armed with an assault rifle
during the resultant protests about the attempted murder by
police of Blake, whereby the white teenager was parading with
the rifle along the street and was ignored by two law enforcement
vehicles alltough he was brandishing the rifle over his head!!
l ask again, why wasnt he shot down too??

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27-08-2020, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Well the children were definitely at risk Surfermom,, from the 7
bullets that the cop fired and the possible richochets around the
inside of the car ??
Nobody has answered my question about the associated killings
of two people by a white teenager armed with an assault rifle
during the resultant protests about the attempted murder by
police of Blake, whereby the white teenager was parading with
the rifle along the street and was ignored by two law enforcement
vehicles alltough he was brandishing the rifle over his head!!
l ask again, why wasnt he shot down too??

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Probably glad of a bit of help in the war against civilisation that they are facing.

That apart it wasn't attempted murder. It was just doing their job to protect the general population.
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27-08-2020, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
Probably glad of a bit of help in the war against civilisation that they are facing.

That apart it wasn't attempted murder. It was just doing their job to protect the general population.
After the first shot to the spine Todgy it WAS attempted murder !!

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27-08-2020, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Surfermom ->
It remains is unclear whether Blake was the man for which the police were called for violating a restraining order, or whether, as some claim, that he was trying to de-escalate the situation.

Regardless of whether or not he just was there to help or was violating a restraining order, he broke the law when he resisted arrest.

If the children or the officer was at risk, then at the moment of the shooting the crime would also include assault (threat) with a deadly weapon.

The argument for the shots fired were Blakes alleged possession of a weapon when he reached for something in the car, and another officer shouting, "He has a knife!" (Blake has since admitted that he did indeed have a knife). The second rationale is that the Blake's children were in danger.

The question of course, is who was at risk and whether or not the officer was excessive in using the force in arresting Blake, especially in the number of shots that were fired.

The Department of Justice was on this case immediately.
Just a simple misunderstanding then?
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27-08-2020, 11:24 PM
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after the first shot to the spine todgy it was attempted murder !!

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27-08-2020, 11:33 PM
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Interesting reading through this thread. It is very hard to imagine why they needed to shoot so many times regardless of what the victim was doing and it did not appear in the video that he was doing anything threatening. If they are suggesting he was reaching for a firearm it would be very unwise to leave a loaded gun in the car with 3 children. In the case of our Christchurch terrorist, he was tackled to the ground by two armed policemen. The policemen in the shooting were quite close enough and outnumbered him 3 to 1, why shoot him? Of course this should not sully the name of all policemen, most are good but this case proves the 'bad apple' syndrome.
I also didn't realise that although the Dodger was obviously an opinionated stroppy individual he is also a racist.
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27-08-2020, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Ciderman ->
Interesting reading through this thread. It is very hard to imagine why they needed to shoot so many times regardless of what the victim was doing and it did not appear in the video that he was doing anything threatening. If they are suggesting he was reaching for a firearm it would be very unwise to leave a loaded gun in the car with 3 children. In the case of our Christchurch terrorist, he was tackled to the ground by two armed policemen. The policemen in the shooting were quite close enough and outnumbered him 3 to 1, why shoot him? Of course this should not sully the name of all policemen, most are good but this case proves the 'bad apple' syndrome.
I also didn't realise that although the Dodger was obviously an opinionated stroppy individual he is also a racist.

Well said, Ciderman.
 
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