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Re: Vitamin D Defficiency and Mobility Issues in Old People

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They recommend that l purchase the Vitamin D from, health food stores, pharmacies, supermarkets or online.
The Fultium D3 800 IU Capsules l take are about £30 online for 30 capsules.
Are they not prescribing Vit K along with it?!
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Lol you think Arty ?
Its a conspiracy I tell you!!
Ive been out in the sun all this year and im still on having to take high dose Vit D ....why????
Aysa, l am LOLing at your LOL!
Should l have said, ‘know’ instead of ‘think’?

I was told the reason l needed Vitamin D, even though, l ate lots of food containing Vitamin D was because l wasn’t absorbing it.
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Re: Vitamin D Defficiency and Mobility Issues in Old People

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Are they not prescribing Vit K along with it?!
Realist, l have never been offered, or instructed to take Vitamin K. Should l have been?
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06-12-2018, 08:51 PM
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I'm phoning my surgery to leave a message asking GP should I be taking vitK too...
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Re: Vitamin D Defficiency and Mobility Issues in Old People

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Realist, l have never been offered, or instructed to take Vitamin K. Should l have been?
Some research to consider:

https://info.dralexrinehart.com/arti...its-connection


Another here:

https://www.drstevenlin.com/how-to-c...k2-supplement/

"Taking a Vitamin D3 supplement without K2 can have disastrous effect, as Vitamin D creates need for Vitamin K2 in the body.

As a guide, you should take 45mcg of Vitamin K2 per 1000 IU of Vitamin D3."

"Take your Vitamin K2 supplement with your dinner that includes dietary fat or at bedtime, 8 to 12 hours after you take your Vitamin D3.

Most people take their D3 with breakfast and K2 at dinner time and this seems sensible, as some research shows that D3 is more effective if not taken at the same time as K2."


If you want a more mainstream link then here's one from NCBI:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5613455/

"Given the fact that 25(OH)D is converted to 1,25(OH)D, vitamin D supplementation stimulates the production of 1,25(OH)D [72]. This means that long-term vitamin D supplementation could promote the production of large amounts of vitamin K-dependent proteins, which remain inactive because there is not enough vitamin K to carboxylate (Figure 1()). We propose a new hypothesis that if vitamin D concentrations are constantly high, there might not be enough vitamin K for activation of vitamin K-dependent proteins. Consequently, excess vitamin D diminishes the ability of vitamin K-dependent proteins to function properly, to stimulate bone mineralization, and to inhibit soft tissue calcification"

"increasing vitamin D intake through dietary or supplemental source increases intestinal calcium absorption, particularly when combined with calcium supplementation, and promotes hypercalcemia "

"Increased calcium intake by itself may not be problematic as long as there is a steady state between optimal vitamin D and vitamin K concentrations. The disbalance between vitamin D and vitamin K promotes an environment in which excess calcium will be deposited into our vascular tissue instead of bone. "
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07-12-2018, 09:11 AM
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I just read this about K2...on the internet.

Is Too Much Vitamin k2 bad for you?
If you have diabetes and take vitamin K1*, monitor your blood sugar levels closely.
* Vit K1 is found in most leafy vegetables
Kidney disease: Too much vitamin K can be harmful if you are receiving dialysis treatments due to kidney disease. ... In fact, high doses of vitamin K can make clotting problems worse in these people.



You can get your vitamins from a balanced diet, things like butter, egg yolks, dark chicken meat & cheese provide K2, so most don't need supplements.
Sadly, no matter how many " healthy foods" you eat, you will still die eventually!
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I take vitamin K occasionally to clot my blood please don't take it unless you really need it and you can only find out with a blood test. If you bruise very easily and bleed more than normal you might need the blood test. But normally no one needs a supplement unless they have a blot clotting disease.
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