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There's no let-up of condemnation for China with this today from the Five Eyes group:
"UK and allies issue joint statement condemning China for breaching international agreements"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1738728.html

I expect that as usual this will be ignored by China.
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Originally Posted by Zaphod ->
There's no let-up of condemnation for China with this today from the Five Eyes group:
"UK and allies issue joint statement condemning China for breaching international agreements"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1738728.html

I expect that as usual this will be ignored by China.
We should be putting sanctions on them and throwing them out of the WTO.
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We should be putting sanctions on them and throwing them out of the WTO.
The UK simply doesn't have the influence in the world let alone the power to do so.
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The UK simply doesn't have the influence in the world let alone the power to do so.
It wouldn't matter anyway. The UK decided in the 1960s under Wilson that it had no interest in anything "East of Suez"
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The UK simply doesn't have the influence in the world let alone the power to do so.
That goes for any country - "influence" is a fluid concept and those who can be influenced are fickle.

Besides which in this instance we are discussing the Five Eyes group - not just the UK.
But it would take far more than anything that has been done up until now to persuade China to change their stance.
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The UK simply doesn't have the influence in the world let alone the power to do so.
After what China has inflicted on the world in 2020 I'm sure we can muster support from others that have had their economies destroyed by the CCP
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After what China has inflicted on the world in 2020 I'm sure we can muster support from others that have had their economies destroyed by the CCP
Well said Bread.
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After what China has inflicted on the world in 2020 I'm sure we can muster support from others that have had their economies destroyed by the CCP
Unlikely. China has the whip hand.
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Unlikely. China has the whip hand.
It should have sanctions anyway because of Hong Kong and the treatment of the Uighurs.
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It should have sanctions anyway because of Hong Kong and the treatment of the Uighurs.
Hong Kong is an integral part of China and FWIW I fully endorse the way that they are dealing with Uighur problem. If anything the Chinese government are being very tolerant in view of the terrorism being conducted by the Uighur mohammadans against the PRC.
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