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Nato GDP spending target is 2%

Netherlands can't afford their commitments either.
They are so used to AngloCentric nations liberating them it's like 'Why Bother?'
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05-12-2019, 11:01 PM
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They are so used to AngloCentric nations liberating them it's like 'Why Bother?'

It's been free for years
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05-12-2019, 11:58 PM
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Nato GDP spending target is 2%

Netherlands can't afford their commitments either.
Beyond the direct budget (which you could call contribution), NATO came to an agreement in 2014 that each member state will increase their own defense spending to 2% of their respective gross domestic product by 2024.
There is no penalty for not reaching the 2% goal; it’s simply a guideline, and most member states have increased defense spending even if they haven’t reached that goal quite yet. NATO members increased defense spending for the fifth year in a row in 2019.
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06-12-2019, 12:01 AM
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Beyond the direct budget (which you could call contribution), NATO came to an agreement in 2014 that each member state will increase their own defense spending to 2% of their respective gross domestic product by 2024.
There is no penalty for not reaching the 2% goal; it’s simply a guideline, and most member states have increased defense spending even if they haven’t reached that goal quite yet. NATO members increased defense spending for the fifth year in a row in 2019.

So your agreeing with me again

The 2% is a target and a commitment by the NATO countries from 2014 ... your not paying anywhere near it and neither is germany.

You said if the uk didn't pay its 39 billion to the EU then it could never be trusted as it goes back on its word.

Oh dear Solasch you just buried yourself with this one

In the past 5 years it seems your country has defaulted on its promises by about 35 billion.
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06-12-2019, 12:03 AM
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I love how Europeans try to disparage he UK for its former Empire on which the sun never set.

Is it because during that global age of Empire building Britain was the best at it ??

I mean, Holland , Germany, Begium , Portugal , Italy and others all tried but were pretty lame at it.

France and Spain were slightly better, but Britain was Best!

Post Empire, GB has been best at maintaining good relations with former colonies as represented by the Commonwealth etc.

But it seems you are not that good at maintaining a relation as a former colony yourself. Oh sorry, I forget, you are still a colony of the EU.

We will evaluate that relation once you have regained your independence, in 202?
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06-12-2019, 12:08 AM
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But it seems you are not that good at maintaining a relation as a former colony yourself. Oh sorry, I forget, you are still a colony of the EU.

We will evaluate that relation once you have regained your independence, in 202?

So now you admit that the EU is an empire ???

You couldn't make this up
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06-12-2019, 12:09 AM
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So your agreeing with me again

The 2% is a target and a commitment by the NATO countries ... your not paying anywhere near it and neither is germany.

You said if the uk didn't pay its 39 billion to the EU then it could never be trusted as it goes back on its word.

Oh dear Solasch you just buried yourself with this one
Can't you read or what is wrong with you? The 2% is a guideline to be reached by 2024. It is a growth traject.
The yearly contribution to NATO is payed yearly by all members.
That yearly contribution is comparable to the £ 39 bn you mention. Do keep your facts correct if you want a mature debate.
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06-12-2019, 12:11 AM
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So now you admit that the EU is an empire ???

You couldn't make this up
Which also requires me to admit you are a poor colony.
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06-12-2019, 12:13 AM
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Can't you read or what is wrong with you? The 2% is a guideline to be reached by 2024. It is a growth traject.
The yearly contribution to NATO is payed yearly by all members.
That yearly contribution is comparable to the £ 39 bn you mention. Do keep your facts correct if you want a mature debate.

Your talking out your arse. You were supposed to be paying 2% in the first place it's only because you got found out about it you suddenly decided you would start paying up.
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06-12-2019, 12:20 AM
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Your talking out your arse. You were supposed to be paying 2% in the first place it's only because you got found out about it you suddenly decided you would start paying up.
Ha ha and ho ho. Still not familiar with facts. The 2% GDP commitment was made in 2014, when former president Barack Obama was still in office, and annual defense spending from European member states and Canada as a share of GDP has steadily increased since 2015 – all before Trump was president. Https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_171356.htm
 
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