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I should say that while driving licences have become our de-facto ID there is no compulsion to carry them (except when driving) nor do you have to prove who you are (except when opening a bank account)

Having said that they are very convenient as a form of Photo ID, in fact the most common use of them as ID is to gain entry to a registered club if you are not a member.
What about healthcare? Do you need to prove your identity for healthcare?
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...My guess would be that they simply become included into the ever swelling ranks of the Socially Excluded....
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What about healthcare? Do you need to prove your identity for healthcare?
You have a Medicare Card with your Medicare number you don't have to prove your ID just show your card.

It is a secondary document only worth 25 points toward the 100 points you need to prove your ID.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_point_check

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You have a Medicare Card with your Medicare number you don't have to prove your ID just show your card.

It is a secondary document only worth 25 points toward the 100 points you need to prove your ID.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_point_check

A good thing. Something that we should emulate.

Wouldn't it be simpler, though, to have a general identification card that covers everything that genuine citizens are entitled to?

It could even include additional endorsements (on the same card) for driver's licence, etc.
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A good thing. Something that we should emulate.

Wouldn't it be simpler, though, to have a general identification card that covers everything that genuine citizens are entitled to?

It could even include additional endorsements (on the same card) for driver's licence, etc.

It gets worse there is a Centrelink number which is used for all social security payments such as dole, pension, tax relief part A and B.

I quote this number to get my free driving licence, car rego and concessions on telephone, electricity, water, gas, $2.50 transport etc and show this card to get concession entry/prices with public and private organisations. The number stays with you for life after 18 as does your tax file number.



There is no stomach for an ID card in this country, Personally I am looking forward to the day everything is on my phone and I can stop carrying all these bloody cards.

The problem with one card is that some things are state issued for example Opal Card, Driving licence while some things are federally issued like Medicare, Pension, Centrelink

Our constitution was written to protect state rights.
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It gets worse there is a Centrelink number which is used for all social security payments such as dole, pension, tax relief part A and B.

I quote this number to get my free driving licence, car rego and concessions on telephone, electricity, water, gas, $2.50 transport etc and show this card to get concession entry/prices with public and private organisations. The number stays with you for life after 18 as does your tax file number.



There is no stomach for an ID card in this country, Personally I am looking forward to the day everything is on my phone and I can stop carrying all these bloody cards.

The problem with one card is that some things are state issued for example Opal Card, Driving licence while some things are federally issued like Medicare, Pension, Centrelink

Our constitution was written to protect state rights.
Well, the first step would be to get everything on one card, for convenience, and the next would be to have all the information on your phone. However, problems may arise here. How secure is information on your phone, and what happens if it is lost, damaged or stolen?

I would still vote for IDs in the UK, and can't understand why the idea was voted down previously.
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Well, the first step would be to get everything on one card, for convenience, and the next would be to have all the information on your phone. However, problems may arise here. How secure is information on your phone, and what happens if it is lost, damaged or stolen?

I would still vote for IDs in the UK, and can't understand why the idea was voted down previously.
The problem is that people don't like the idea of all their personal information in one place it makes it a single target for hackers and a mine of information for an errant government.

It is getting to the stage where a photograph of a particular card kept on your phone will satisfy most people who need to see it (not the police because the law says you must carry your driving licence when driving).
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The problem is that people don't like the idea of all their personal information in one place it makes it a single target for hackers and a mine of information for an errant government.

It is getting to the stage where a photograph of a particular card kept on your phone will satisfy most people who need to see it (not the police because the law says you must carry your driving licence when driving).
OK, well that certainly makes sense.

Of course, in our case in the UK, I suspect that even if we did have ID many authorities wouldn't bother asking for them, perhaps especially the health service!
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governments won't give you all you need unless you can prove you are alive and registered - get real!
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