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I can see the similarity, but which of these august bodies actually decides upon the laws which are to be enacted?
Perhaps they have do-gooding quangos in the EU as we do here? They probably come up with annoying recommendations which are then sausage fed to the EU parliament via the commission. There are no doubt endless pointless meetings to fill their days.
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31-08-2019, 12:15 AM
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Perhaps they have do-gooding quangos in the EU as we do here? They probably come up with annoying recommendations which are then sausage fed to the EU parliament via the commission. There are no doubt endless pointless meetings to fill their days.
All bureaucrats do that!

I think the most important thing is that we have much more control of who governs us (assuming we regain our independence) than we have over the EU authorities, Commission or Council.
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31-08-2019, 01:32 PM
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All bureaucrats do that!

I think the most important thing is that we have much more control of who governs us (assuming we regain our independence) than we have over the EU authorities, Commission or Council.
Liberal Democrat (ALDE) MEP Chris Davies, says he has far more influence as a member of the European Parliament than he did as an opposition MP in the House of Commons. "Here I started to have an impact on day one", "And there has not been a month since when words I tabled did not end up in legislation."
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31-08-2019, 01:54 PM
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Liberal Democrat (ALDE) MEP Chris Davies, says he has far more influence as a member of the European Parliament than he did as an opposition MP in the House of Commons. "Here I started to have an impact on day one", "And there has not been a month since when words I tabled did not end up in legislation."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demo...European_Union
Aye, Right!!

We don't call them Lie-Dems for no good reason, Solly.
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31-08-2019, 02:30 PM
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31-08-2019, 02:33 PM
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Aye, Right!!

We don't call them Lie-Dems for no good reason, Solly.
These facts support his statement.
Voting in the Council (of relevant Ministers) is usually by qualified majority voting, and sometimes unanimity is required. This means that, for the vast majority of EU legislation, the corresponding national government has usually voted in favour in the Council. To give an example, up to September 2006, out of the 86 pieces of legislation adopted in that year the Government of the United Kingdom had voted in favour of the legislation 84 times, abstained from voting twice and never voted against.
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31-08-2019, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch ->
These facts support his statement.
Voting in the Council (of relevant Ministers) is usually by qualified majority voting, and sometimes unanimity is required. This means that, for the vast majority of EU legislation, the corresponding national government has usually voted in favour in the Council. To give an example, up to September 2006, out of the 86 pieces of legislation adopted in that year the Government of the United Kingdom had voted in favour of the legislation 84 times, abstained from voting twice and never voted against.

Its voted for by EU fanatics that's why
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31-08-2019, 08:03 PM
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Aye, Right!!

We don't call them Lie-Dems for no good reason, Solly.
Ah, just as brexiteers are known as Lievers for a very good reason
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31-08-2019, 11:38 PM
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Ah, just as brexiteers are known as Lievers for a very good reason

Not quite
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Not quite
But you know you are although the term has its roots in the lies told during the referendum campaign
 
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