09-09-2020, 01:09 AM
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Coronavirus: Social gatherings above six banned in England from 14 September
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54081131But it will not apply to schools, workplaces or Covid-secure weddings, funerals and organised team sports.
It will be enforced through a £100 fine if people fail to comply with police, doubling up to a maximum of £3,200.
Several exemptions apply to the new rules - which come into force on 14 September - with households and support bubbles bigger than six people unaffected
Boris Johnson is expected to deliver further details at a Downing Street news conference today.
The change applies to England only, to people of all ages, and to gatherings indoors and outdoors, in private homes, public outdoor spaces, and venues such as pubs and restaurants.
Previously, guidance in England allowed gatherings of up to six people from different households - or up to 30 people from two households.
But, after that, the most common contact infected individuals have is with visitors to their household, according to data gathered by England's NHS Test and Trace service.
It is ahead of leisure venues, shops, workplaces and health and care settings.
Large gatherings in homes - especially indoors which is more likely to happen when the weather turns - present the greatest risk.
09-09-2020, 11:33 AM
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I agree that people just do as they please as far as I am concernedCummings fiasco was the start of the rot setting in .
People were pilling on to the beaches and when they were asked why
they had travelled so far when at that time 5 miles was the limit the
answer was if it is ok for him then its ok for us .
His arrogance in the interview he gave in his back garden was beyond belief for him to spout the pack of lies and expect us to believe it
09-09-2020, 03:38 PM
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People have started to ignore that there is a highly infectious disease and started to behave normally. I would say that the messages from the Government encouraging people go to back to normal, go shopping, socialising in pubs etc are to blame.09-09-2020, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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People have started to ignore that there is a highly infectious disease and started to behave normally. I would say that the messages from the Government encouraging people go to back to normal, go shopping, socialising in pubs etc are to blame.
BJ's government were late in responding to the pandemic, did not enforce lockdown and then, despite evidence from other countries, went for an early release but failed, again to enforce the rules. Persisting with that approach has resulted so far in a significant increase in cases, but, given that they're mostly among the young, then many of those returning to "uni" will be diagnosed in the coming weeks .....
09-09-2020, 04:41 PM
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Johnson says “we are not there yet” on vaccines and treatments. But the government is working on an alternative plan*, he says. He says this is based on mass testing. He says the government is working hard to increase testing capacity to 500,000 tests** per day.
But it wants to use testing to identify people who are negative, so they can behave in a normal way. He says the government is looking at new tests, involving swabs or saliva, that can give results very quickly, in 20 minutes. He says sports venues could test people, and let in all people testing negative. And people could be released from quarantine, if they are negative, on return from abroad.
This is his “moon shot”***, he says. The government is working on it at pace. He says he hopes it can be rolled out by the spring. But he says he cannot guarantee these advances will be possible.
* That'll be Plan42A, then .....
** There are currently 175,000 test results per day but these include multiple tests for an individual person. They include all types of testing (swab testing for antigens, antibody testing and surveillance testing). Only one more laboratory is planned so who's going to administer and process 500,000 tests per day .....
*** More like a "pipe dream" .....
09-09-2020, 04:50 PM
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Re: Coronavirus: Social gatherings above six banned in England from 14 September
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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People have started to ignore that there is a highly infectious disease and started to behave normally. I would say that the messages from the Government encouraging people go to back to normal, go shopping, socialising in pubs etc are to blame.
Yes, I agree with what you say Annie.
Opening the pubs was probably asking for trouble. They are all shut in together with no masks for a start, and when people have had a few tipples, they either forget - or don't care anymore about distancing.
I am waiting to see what happens now the schools and colleges are open again too, because although they can distance in classrooms, I don't see how they can uphold it in the playgrounds as easily? And what about the Mum's doing the school run, taking/collecting multiple family children?
Is that still allowed or not?
Then there are the teachers themselves. Where have they been socialising out fo working hours?
Do you remember in the early days when they thought it was heat sensitive so would die off when the weather warmed up? What tosh that was!
I really can't see an end to this virus for a very long time yet.
I have also never believed it was caused by bats being eaten either.
09-09-2020, 05:18 PM
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Three neighbouring bars and two restaurants in the small market town where I live have shut amid a coronavirus outbreak "due to a recent rise of positive cases".They're all frequented mainly by young people. I expect that all the pubs and restaurants in the town centre will follow suit as the infection, inevitably, spreads.
09-09-2020, 05:28 PM
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PM's Q&AQ: For the last few weeks you have been telling people to go back to work. Now you are putting new restrictions in place. Why should people listen to you?
Johnson says the situation has been changing. He still wants people to return to work, in a Covid-free way. He now wants to get people to follow the rule of six, he says. This will be legally enforced.
16:40
Q: Two months ago you said we might be back to normal by Christmas. That’s wrong, isn’t it?
Johnson says he is still hopeful that some aspects of normal life could return. He talks about testing, and the idea that people could get tested every morning. That would give people a passport. They could then mingle in theatres or cinemas or places of work. He says he is aiming for this, but he cannot be sure he will deliver it.
He's wrong and he won't admit it .....
16:59
Q: Is the technology behind this moonshot plan reliable?
Vallance says some of this can be done with existing technology. But some of these technologies have not been tested. It would be “completely wrong” to assume that this is a “slam dunk”.
Truth .....
Whitty says it is “likely” that we will have tests of this sort in the “not too distant future”, but that does not mean immediately.
Evasion .....
Johnson says he is very ambitious about this. He hopes a lot of progress can be made in a short period of time.
Delusion .....
All that talk and no solutions - just empty promises and "pipe-dreams" .....
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