23-01-2021, 02:22 PM
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HIMuch as I dislike Boris this is not his mess.
It goes back to Cameron and May who decided to dismantle our Public Protection System, all to save £70 million a year.
Boris is in an impossible position.
23-01-2021, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiI simply do not understand the Covid Deniers and those who will refuse the vaccine.
I have been in and out of hospital for months, heart problems. not covid.
I have spent most of my hospital time in ICU or High Dependancy Units.
I have seen the effects of Covid, heard people die
It is not nice knowing the one opposite and the one next to you are dead and seeing the bodies being wheeled out.
It is not just the oldies, both were younger than me.
No vaccine, no treatment is my simple solution, it would concentrate minds.
Putting NHS Staff and others at risk is very selfish.
I have mentioned before that I think the biggest reason for the continued spread of Covid is the behaviour of covidiots.
If there was any justice in the world, the covidiots would contract Covid and be the ones to die from it.
Yes, I'm sure I'll be criticised for making that statement.
23-01-2021, 03:00 PM
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League tables between different regions based on number of vaccinations alone are meaningless. Different areas have different demographics. You'd need to adjust the data for this to see what's really happening.
23-01-2021, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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League tables between different regions based on number of vaccinations alone are meaningless. Different areas have different demographics. You'd need to adjust the data for this to see what's really happening.
23-01-2021, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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League tables between different regions based on number of vaccinations alone are meaningless. Different areas have different demographics. You'd need to adjust the data for this to see what's really happening.
23-01-2021, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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League tables between different regions based on number of vaccinations alone are meaningless. Different areas have different demographics. You'd need to adjust the data for this to see what's really happening.
23-01-2021, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Omah
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I haven't seen any league tables ..... 
Anyone who is a regular reader of the news can see what the media is doing. In one major news article you had journalists from nearly all the main stream press reporting on the fact that Scotland is rolling out the vaccine far far slower than that of everywhere else in the UK and thus putting extreme pressure on Nicola sturgeon as to why Scotland is lagging behind the rest of the UK.
Then you get reports of how quickly people in London are receiving the vaccine than those in other parts of the country and the numbers of people who are getting the vaccine.
There have been news articles where roll out of the vaccine is slower in parts of the North than that of some parts of the South.
And in all of these news articles you get numbers of how many people have been vaccinated with the journalist making comments of such and such and area is doing better than others.
Yes the roll out of the vaccine can be due to a number of factors BUT the way the journalists are wording their news articles are doing it in such a way that it's a kind of competition 'oh look, this area is beating this area in the roll out of the vaccine', 'oh look, this area is lagging behind in the number of people being vaccinated but this other area is doing good'.
23-01-2021, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Dodge
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Your just being pedantic for obvious reasons.Anyone who is a regular reader of the news can see what the media is doing. In one major news article you had journalists from nearly all the main stream press reporting on the fact that Scotland is rolling out the vaccine far far slower than that of everywhere else in the UK and thus putting extreme pressure on Nicola sturgeon as to why Scotland is lagging behind the rest of the UK.
Then you get reports of how quickly people in London are receiving the vaccine than those in other parts of the country and the numbers of people who are getting the vaccine.
There have been news articles where roll out of the vaccine is slower in parts of the North than that of some parts of the South.
And in all of these news articles you get numbers of how many people have been vaccinated with the journalist making comments of such and such and area is doing better than others.
Yes the roll out of the vaccine can be due to a number of factors BUT the way the journalists are wording their news articles are doing it in such a way that it's a kind of competition 'oh look, this area is beating this area in the roll out of the vaccine', 'oh look, this area is lagging behind in the number of people being vaccinated but this other area is doing good'.
23-01-2021, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dodge
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Your just being pedantic for obvious reasons.Anyone who is a regular reader of the news can see what the media is doing. In one major news article you had journalists from nearly all the main stream press reporting on the fact that Scotland is rolling out the vaccine far far slower than that of everywhere else in the UK and thus putting extreme pressure on Nicola sturgeon as to why Scotland is lagging behind the rest of the UK.
Then you get reports of how quickly people in London are receiving the vaccine than those in other parts of the country and the numbers of people who are getting the vaccine.
There have been news articles where roll out of the vaccine is slower in parts of the North than that of some parts of the South.
And in all of these news articles you get numbers of how many people have been vaccinated with the journalist making comments of such and such and area is doing better than others.
Yes the roll out of the vaccine can be due to a number of factors BUT the way the journalists are wording their news articles are doing it in such a way that it's a kind of competition 'oh look, this area is beating this area in the roll out of the vaccine', 'oh look, this area is lagging behind in the number of people being vaccinated but this other area is doing good'.
Instead of being grateful for the tremendous efforts being made to vaccinate a huge number of people in as short a timescale as possible and promote a feeling of hope, they seem to prefer displaying misery and dejection.
We need hope and positivity at times like this, and despite the obvious there is in fact much to be positive about.
23-01-2021, 04:22 PM
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They said on the news this morning that they are now trying to get the government to change it to 6 weeks between the jabs, so I will wait and see if it changes.Last I heard, some medical people are having doubts whether it is any protection against the newer variants anyway.
I wonder why we need 2 jabs in the first place. We don't need 2 flu jabs.
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