Re: e-Scooters
Originally Posted by
AnnieS
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No
I think street lights and police is something we need more of. Street lights as you say contribute to making people feel safer and will deter crime because people are less likely to do nasty things in bright light. But they aren't (except in the scary scenario Meg mentioned in her town) usually fitted with secret cameras.
We need more plods on the street. That definitely deters crime more than anything else. It's interesting that the police's ability to fight crime is hampered by mobile phones filming their every move!
So now they too have to wear body cams - nuts!
You have misunderstood. What I am saying is that we have all this mega surveillance already in our society. We can't now get rid of all the spying we have in place but
we do not want any more thank you very much. Certainly no drones or bots. In san Fran people have been vandalising bots and drones. It's not welcome and it's not wanted. They also take jobs and ruin lives. I have watched this evolving and hated every erosion of our privacy, but it's a relentless wave that is being engineered by the higher ups and big corporations.
In terms of the cost /benefit - well the marginal gains I would say go into negative when you count whether it makes any difference to crime. I don't believe it stops crime.
Just provides evidence to convict people, but there is still a bottomless pit and they don't end up punished or rehabilitated. It all costs too much to rehabilitate offenders.
Somehow over the years all this infrastructure has been set up yet we have more crime than ever in some places. The costs to society of giving up freedoms and intrusion into our private lives as well as losing all the plods on the streets is devastating. You should watch lives of others if you haven't. It's a great film. Is that the sort of society we want here? No thanks.
I agree with you that more street lighting and definitely more police would be to our advantage.
Plods on the street could be a good thing, but with limited numbers having them in cars has the advantage of them being sent where they are needed very quickly. Both methods would be good if we had a sufficient number of police, of course.
I think the real reason that police now have to have body cams is the same reason as I wanted them in the classroom: to prove their/my innocence in the case of unfounded accusations.
On the contrary, I'd very much like there to be more surveillance of our streets by fixed cameras. You obviously don't like them, but I'd feel a lot safer knowing that if I were attacked it would be seen and help sent quickly.
Drones, of course, are used quite differently for tracking criminals: it is much easier to follow someone from a high vantage point than on foot. Helicopters, of course, are even better but more expensive.
Robots are still something we see on science fiction films!
I agree. Catching and charging criminals is good, but trying to get them convicted and punished is quite another matter. Expensive defence lawyers (who'll swear black is white if the money is good) ensure that some known criminals escape justice and even when they are successfully convicted our lenient judges seem to think it's nice to let them off with a light sentence. I'm fed up of hearing about 'suspended sentences' but of course the prisons are full and expensive so the government doesn't want any more, thank you.
An ideal solution would be to make our prisons more like they used to be (and still are in East Europe): feared by the criminals and not seen as a short-term holiday camp.
There is so much that can be done to reduce crime, and I have talked about such things for years now. Sadly, things go on as ever without the political will.