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.... A lot of this was then overtaken by software packages, Dreamweaver was one I recall, that used all the coding without the user having to type it all out. Interesting days those were....
I wrote a site using something similar to Dreamweaver. It was called Namo WebEditor. I put a good number of pre-written Java applets in the site. Downloaded from a site that specialised in writing them. They could be worked into a page of HTML partly by copy/pasting them where needed and partly by adjusting position in the WYSYWIG interface on Namo. I fould I was writing some HTML code in the end.

Then I learned how people were mistrusting Java applets and support for them was being phased out in popular web browsers. I took out the applets and re-did the site in just HTML 4.01 and validated the code in W3C.org. Fonts were set by way of a stylesheet (.css file).

The site was hosted on the web space that a Virgin Media account holder could use. VM stopped that some years back and I never bothered to upload the site to anywhere else. All a bit dated now anyway.
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i wrote a site using something similar to dreamweaver. It was called namo webeditor. I put a good number of pre-written java applets in the site. Downloaded from a site that specialised in writing them. They could be worked into a page of html partly by copy/pasting them where needed and partly by adjusting position in the wysywig interface on namo. I fould i was writing some html code in the end.

Then i learned how people were mistrusting java applets and support for them was being phased out in popular web browsers. I took out the applets and re-did the site in just html 4.01 and validated the code in w3c.org. Fonts were set by way of a stylesheet (.css file).

The site was hosted on the web space that a virgin media account holder could use. Vm stopped that some years back and i never bothered to upload the site to anywhere else. All a bit dated now anyway.
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Sorry about that OGF. Just a bit carried away there by nostalgia on a topic that I was once into.
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09-06-2021, 03:25 PM
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For those who may be interested as to the reasons for yesterday's failure of the internet for some websites in some instances:

"A major internet blackout that hit many high-profile websites on Tuesday has been blamed on a software bug.

Fastly, the cloud-computing company responsible for the issues, said the bug had been triggered when one of its customers had changed their settings.

The outage has raised questions about relying on a handful of companies to run the vast infrastructure that underpins the internet."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57413224
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09-06-2021, 04:16 PM
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For those who may be interested as to the reasons for yesterday's failure of the internet for some websites in some instances:

"A major internet blackout that hit many high-profile websites on Tuesday has been blamed on a software bug.

Fastly, the cloud-computing company responsible for the issues, said the bug had been triggered when one of its customers had changed their settings.

The outage has raised questions about relying on a handful of companies to run the vast infrastructure that underpins the internet."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57413224
Not the customers fault from the sound of it but doing something that caused some of the Internet to shut down must have been quite embarrassing nonetheless.
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09-06-2021, 05:09 PM
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I had internet problems from last night, but reset router this morning. I used my phone's mobile internet to stay online, and did antivirus etc, love eset
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Sorry about that OGF. Just a bit carried away there by nostalgia on a topic that I was once into.
No need to apologise mart, I go off on one myself sometimes, I just wish I could understand it, and I know some members will be able to make sense of it, and this is the Technology thread....
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09-06-2021, 08:35 PM
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One thing a bit funny in the post is 'WYSIWYG' (pronounced 'wizzywig'). It might be thought some highly technical term but it literally stands for: What You See Is What You Get, which isn't a very technical term at all is it?

It means a site can be built not by writing background code but by building and typing it as it would be seen in the finished page (more or less).
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Originally Posted by Baz46 ->
For those who may be interested as to the reasons for yesterday's failure of the internet for some websites in some instances:

"A major internet blackout that hit many high-profile websites on Tuesday has been blamed on a software bug.

Fastly, the cloud-computing company responsible for the issues, said the bug had been triggered when one of its customers had changed their settings.

The outage has raised questions about relying on a handful of companies to run the vast infrastructure that underpins the internet."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57413224
That made me laugh out loud!

The very idea that a "Customer" has the power to change settings which will bring down his supplier, and much of the internet system, beggars belief.

And the failure rampaging onwards, around the net?

No protection in place then?

Wow! Heads must roll!

My earlier comment, hinting at Ransomware, or Cryptovirology, still appeals to me.

These are problems which the big boys may be very reluctant to own up to falling foul of.

Imagine having to explain how, as a bastion of the IT world, a service supplier finds his company to have been suckered!

Remember, not so long ago, some big UK organisations being done? (Example NHS, I seem to recall).

Not going to happen now! Nobody would ever use him again!

Watch out, instead, for a rapidly growing discussion on my above suggestions, and how to avoid them.

Of course this could be just me doing the Conspiracy Theory stuff...!

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That made me laugh out loud!

The very idea that a "Customer" has the power to change settings which will bring down his supplier, and much of the internet system, beggars belief.

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I did wonder at that when reading the news item. However, it was relevant so I posted the link.

With many website settings I have access to, as a customer, I am always changing something or other. Often that is necessary with things changing so regularly, as they seem to these days.

One of those websites which did 'go down' that day was my Gmail, others were search engines and also a couple of news websites. I always understood the whole internet couldn't go down as that would go against the reasons why the internet first came into being. See my post #10 on this thread for more information on this.

Quite coincidentally that was the second time since 28 May that I was without broadband. Then, yesterday once again no internet. This time, according to my ISP, it was a similar problem to the first one on 28 May when there were problems with the green BT cabinet in the village. So now three times in 14 days, no internet!

It's time BT Openreach was taken to task over the appalling condition of the telephone / broadband network in this country. Yes, BT Openreach is putting in fibre, it's here just the other side of the road outside, as usual though they want yet more money to connect me to it. Why? Because broadband speeds would be higher! I don't want higher speeds, just a reliable, reasonable service for which I already pay!

https://www.bt.com/about/bt/our-comp...sses/openreach
 
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