23-05-2017, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Vaniy
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Totally agree with SwimWhen will the UK wake up to the fact you need ID cards?
I have never understood why we are against ID cards
I have been an expat all of my working life and have always carried one in the many countries here I have lived .
You can't book into a B and B without ID in most countries.
23-05-2017, 09:39 AM
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I am no expert but what I have learned is not all Muslims follow the same ideology but versions of it. It appears most of the aggression comes from a particular form of Islam - Wahhabism. Such followers appear to take the Quran in its most literal form.Once you take on-board there are many forms of Islam you have a better idea why some Muslims are killed by other Muslims. This also makes Swimfeeders insistence that many Muslims are completely trustworthy all the more palatable. Probably too why opposing followers of Wahhabism, and those in the same boat as the rest of us, make the best people to deal with them - other Muslims in other words.
23-05-2017, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Muddy
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Everyone assumes it is a Muslim who has done this Yet no one knows at this time just who was responsible .
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True, but a reasonable bet.
The vast majority of Suicide Bombers are Muslim, the IRA were not.
It is totally obvious from the videos posted that the explosive was TAPT, a completely different signature from IRA explosives.
The IRA still have plenty of stocks of commercially available explosives.
It is certainly not IRA, it is Muslim.
23-05-2017, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiTrue, but a reasonable bet.
The vast majority of Suicide Bombers are Muslim, the IRA were not.
It is totally obvious from the videos posted that the explosive was TAPT, a completely different signature from IRA explosives.
The IRA still have plenty of stocks of commercially available explosives.
It is certainly not IRA, it is Muslim.
23-05-2017, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tarantula
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Whilst it is probable, you don't know for a fact!
Yes Tara, that is true.
It would however be unique if it was IRA.
23-05-2017, 11:14 AM
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HiMy own personal thoughts on this.
We say nothing, the attacker will be identified, say nothing, he or she wants to be a martyr to the cause.
We do not allow them that victory.
We hunt down and track everyone else who had a say in this.
The recruiters, the financiers, the scientists.
We do not prosecute them, we allow them no publicity at all.
To do that is what they want.
Out they go, UK Citizens or not, turned over to the Yazidis and Kurds, those who have been forced to watch their 9 year old daughters raped and being sex slaves.
We extract as much information as we can from them, then they die, no fuss, no bother, just an unmarked grave.
We say nothing, no publicity, no trials, nothing.
We know of around around 800 who have gone abroad to fight for or support ISIS.
We do not know all of them.
Those we do know go back, to Assad, the Yazuckis or the Kurds.
Sod their Human Rights, they have opted out.
They get what they deserve.
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