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Re: Vitamin D Defficiency and Mobility Issues in Old People

I can't be bothered with all this.
Clearly this forum is not for me. Not anymore. Too much bickering. Since when did we all become so judgmental of each other. It never used to be like this.
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Yesterday, 05:46 PM
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...people don't like me fine, I can take that, but to say some things just aren't right and need speaking about.
So that's when you hit the report button and tell admin in that little box exactly why you're enraged.
If they're doing a good job and the post is breaking rules the offending post will be removed.
If not raise hell!!!

Bickering on and on is pointless.
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Originally Posted by Morticia ->
I can't be bothered with all this.
Clearly this forum is not for me. Not anymore. Too much bickering. Since when did we all become so judgmental of each other. It never used to be like this.
Well as I said it builds up. I don't think the thread azz started has helped either as some very nasty things were said and very few apologies given.

Actually that's part of the problem hardly anyone apologizes.
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And I hope this isnít considered hijacking the thread talking about mental health since itís still considered health but Iíd like to address the topic of having mental disorders and not being diagnosed or even realize you have them.

I was raised by two very narcissistic parents who had undiagnosed mental disorders. They were exceptionally good at picking out other peopleís faults but could never see their own.

My father would spent hours straightened out bent nails instead of buying some more or glue a dollar cup over and over again that couldnít be washed in a dishwasher instead of purchasing another. He could obsess over one thing done that wasnít to his satisfaction after youíve spent days helping him.

My husband and I used to poke fun of him at times. Heíd spent an entire summer helping them build their house from a cottage to a permanent home so had full awareness of their actions and behaviours. For years heís been telling me that I have OCD tendencies and while I was somewhat aware it wasnít until THIS year that I realized that Iím probably FAR worse than my father.

In just over a month Iíll be 59 and never realized this before. Now looking back I can see how itís affecting my life and am starting to learn why I get tripped up when trying to communicate to others at times.
Itís hard enough dealing with people who donít have any mental disorders but when dealing with people who also have them, it can be very difficult.

It was a huge wake up call for me and made me view my aging parents very differently. Itís still difficult communicating but with this new awareness I think it has made things much better. My husband claims Iím much better.

Iím adding this as an example because sometimes it is difficult for people to self evaluate their own communicating style and sometimes we have unrecognized mental issues which can interfere with trying to communicate properly.
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Yesterday, 07:07 PM
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Re: Vitamin D Defficiency and Mobility Issues in Old People

Originally Posted by Bratti ->
And I hope this isnít considered hijacking the thread talking about mental health since itís still considered health but Iíd like to address the topic of having mental disorders and not being diagnosed or even realize you have them.

I was raised by two very narcissistic parents who had undiagnosed mental disorders. They were exceptionally good at picking out other peopleís faults but could never see their own.

My father would spent hours straightened out bent nails instead of buying some more or glue a dollar cup over and over again that couldnít be washed in a dishwasher instead of purchasing another. He could obsess over one thing done that wasnít to his satisfaction after youíve spent days helping him.

My husband and I used to poke fun of him at times. Heíd spent an entire summer helping them build their house from a cottage to a permanent home so had full awareness of their actions and behaviours. For years heís been telling me that I have OCD tendencies and while I was somewhat aware it wasnít until THIS year that I realized that Iím probably FAR worse than my father.

In just over a month Iíll be 59 and never realized this before. Now looking back I can see how itís affecting my life and am starting to learn why I get tripped up when trying to communicate to others at times.
Itís hard enough dealing with people who donít have any mental disorders but when dealing with people who also have them, it can be very difficult.

It was a huge wake up call for me and made me view my aging parents very differently. Itís still difficult communicating but with this new awareness I think it has made things much better. My husband claims Iím much better.

Iím adding this as an example because sometimes it is difficult for people to self evaluate their own communicating style and sometimes we have unrecognized mental issues which can interfere with trying to communicate properly.
Thank you for that very personal explanation on the open forum Bratti. I hope people will now understand that you were not being nasty in suggesting mental health issues, you were just offering a possible explanation for somebody being so intent on getting their point across!
Rest assured that you are not the first person to mention that.
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Yesterday, 08:23 PM
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Re: Vitamin D Defficiency and Mobility Issues in Old People

Back on track . . .

An interesting article here

The Largest Ever Clinical Study on Vitamin D Shows We're Wrong About One of Its Main Benefits

https://www.sciencealert.com/the-lar...t-its-benefits

"There is little agreement on what vitamin D deficiency is. Deficiency levels are arbitrary with no international consensus and confusion caused by different units in the US. A "normal" level can vary from 50 to 80 nanomole per litre of blood, but recent studies suggest 30nmol is quite enough."

"Patients with very high vitamin D blood levels (over 100nmol) are becoming routine in my clinic and elsewhere, and toxic overdoses are increasingly being reported. Several randomised trials have shown that patients with high blood levels or taking large doses of vitamin D (above 800IU) had an unexpected increased risk of falls and fractures. Vitamin D is far from safe."

"We have created another pseudo-disease that is encouraged by vitamin companies, patient groups, food manufacturers public health departments and charities. Everyone likes to believe in a miracle vitamin pill and feels "they are doing something".

Vitamin D, despite its star status, would not be called a vitamin today, as the doses needed are too large, the body can synthesise it from skin, and it is a steroid precursor. Instead of relying on this impostor, healthy people should get vitamin D from small doses of sunshine every day as well as from food, such as fish, oil, mushrooms and dairy products."


An interesting read imo. This seems to gel with the various posts of different members in this thread who had differing Vit D levels but were all told they were deficient or not deficient seemingly inconsistently.
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Yesterday, 08:24 PM
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Re: Vitamin D Defficiency and Mobility Issues in Old People

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Did you get to ask your doctor about whether you should be taking Vit K2 with Vit D?


I'd be interested to know what he/she says if you did
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