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the CCP's handling of this is why people are suspicious. Look at this from another level which is loosely touched upon in the video. If the virus was to have come from the Wuhan Virology Laboratory, even if by a way of an accident, it would prove that the CCP are cultivating biological weapons for the intention of hurting other countries. This is against international law and any such admission could get China into serious trouble. Therefore there is no way in hell the CCP are going to admit the virus came from it's laboratory.

That's how I feel too Dodge, but you phrased it all better than I can.
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Good point.

They did this with SARS remember ?

The CCP only care about power, they certainly don't give a toss about the people
Thinking about it further, there is also an even bigger picture to consider. US president Trump has gone after China due to it's the countries businesses stealing other countries businesses secrets and Intellectual Property (IP) hence the tariff war between the two countries. the CCP has always maintained that it is a business problem and not a country problem of which the government is trying to clamp down on, which no one outside of China believes but still it hasn't given Trump the legal wedge to take matters further.

Now if the virus is traced backed to the Wuhan laboratory, it would prove the state, basically the CCP are sanctioning the development of biological weapons to use against other countries. This is against international law and it would therefore give Trump the legal right to do as he wishes against China, legally of course. Which means he could force US companies to leave China, he could force US companies to stop trading with China, he could halt finance and loans and all sorts of things against a country found to be involved in the illegal arms manufacture of biological weapons. Personally I think China knows this and as such this is also a reason why the CCP are doing all it can to provide misinformation to the rest of the world.

The WTO (World Trade Organisation) could hit China with heavy sanctions and penalties. The IMF (International Monetary Fund) could do the same also, so could the UN.

Edit: Also, anyone who has watched the video, remember they talked about the Chinese female virologist who specialises in corona-viruses and has been working on them for years. Now what could be double trouble for China would be if after investigations it is found the virus came from the Wuhan lab, that the lab had already developed a vaccine in case it ever got out BUT it was not used because if it was used then other countries virology experts would be saying how did China get a vaccine so quickly and that the only way that was possible is if the virus was created by the lab, again proving the CCP was creating biological weapons.
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Thinking about it further, there is also an even bigger picture to consider. US president Trump has gone after China due to it's the countries businesses stealing other countries businesses secrets and Intellectual Property (IP) hence the tariff war between the two countries. the CCP has always maintained that it is a business problem and not a country problem of which the government is trying to clamp down on, which no one outside of China believes but still it hasn't given Trump the legal wedge to take matters further.

Now if the virus is traced backed to the Wuhan laboratory, it would prove the state, basically the CCP are sanctioning the development of biological weapons to use against other countries. This is against international law and it would therefore give Trump the legal right to do as he wishes against China, legally of course. Which means he could force US companies to leave China, he could force US companies to stop trading with China, he could halt finance and loans and all sorts of things against a country found to be involved in the illegal arms manufacture of biological weapons. Personally I think China knows this and as such this is also a reason why the CCP are doing all it can to provide misinformation to the rest of the world.

The WTO (World Trade Organisation) could hit China with heavy sanctions and penalties. The IMF (International Monetary Fund) could do the same also, so could the UN.

Edit: Also, anyone who has watched the video, remember they talked about the Chinese female virologist who specialises in corona-viruses and has been working on them for years. Now what could be double trouble for China would be if after investigations it is found the virus came from the Wuhan lab, that the lab had already developed a vaccine in case it ever got out BUT it was not used because if it was used then other countries virology experts would be saying how did China get a vaccine so quickly and that the only way that was possible is if the virus was created by the lab, again proving the CCP was creating biological weapons.


Could be right, Dodge. The CCP have lied and lied over this and the most important thing for them is not saving lives its saving face.

Now in the midst of the crisis their response is to lie again and blame the USA.

Democracies are the biggest threat to communism as we are finding out.
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Could be Dodge. The CCP have lied and lied over this and the most important thing for them is not saving lives its saving face.

Now in the midst of the crisis their response is to lie again and blame the USA.

Democracies are the biggest threat to communism as we are finding out.
If it turns out that the CCP have lied so they can save face, when the international community starts to put pressure on China, it will be interesting to see which countries come to it's defence considering that nearly every country in the world has been affected by the virus and has had it's citizens die from it. Citizens who could have been alive if China had acted differently. That will be the consensus of the international community i think.
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Are China going to build that HS2 here?
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Good video Bread, I found the music a bit loud and annoying at the beginning but I stuck with it and it looks like there is conclusive proof that this virus is a man made hybrid that is going to circulate for ever.....

Having said that, I believe; contrary to what we might have heard; that through recovery, an immune system will be created, it's how the human body reacts to these things, and is the basis of previous vaccines. Of course....You have survive the infection before you can benefit....
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What are you on about?

This is not the fault of the CPP it is the USA that caused this ?
Exactly. If this virus is man made then my money would be on the USA having made it to try and slow down China from becoming the most powerful state on Earth.

The thing I don't get is why none of the rich western country's stopped a single plane allowing the virus into their own country. The UK even had a head start because we saw it unfold in Italy first and even then our Government did nothing for months.
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Exactly. If this virus is man made then my money would be on the USA having made it to try and slow down China from becoming the most powerful state on Earth.

The thing I don't get is why none of the rich western country's stopped a single plane allowing the virus into their own country. The UK even had a head start because we saw it unfold in Italy first and even then our Government did nothing for months.
The US would not release a man made virus that has the potential to infect every human on the planet just to hurt ONE country..China because the US would know that if the virus was to get out of China it would infect the US as well, the US maybe stupid at times but I do not think they are THAT stupid.

If the US wanted to hurt China with a virus, it would be one specifically targeted to the Chinese DNA that way limiting it's affect on others. Nope, the CCP are clutching at straws here and they are planting seeds of misinformation to make people look in other directions.
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The USA stop halt the funding for the WHO

Smart move .. well done USA !
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Good post Bread!

A lot of us were realising that the Chinese Communist Party is at the root of this.

This film confirms it for me.
Thank goodness panic buying has not extended to Aluminium Foil, I shall be wearing a tin foil hat from now on.

 
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