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Quite right Muddy and they are not hell bent on making a profit. Their aim is to CARE for those unable to care for themselves.
Almost all, if not ALL residential geriatric and special needs accomodation is now provided by the private sector with the CQC undertaking regular inspects and issuing reports that are accessable to the general public.
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The reason Brexit is back in the news is because the U.K. missed out on an EU purchase order for CV19 kit. Do try and keep up.
Brexit never was absent. Today the ongoing discussions were summed up:
Mr Barnier said the UK negotiating team keeps repeating that they are negotiating as "sovereign equals", but the "reality" was that an agreement was being sought between a massive bloc and a smaller nation.

The same goes for ppe and covid.
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Hospital deaths are the international method of reporting.
Is that the reason why, as of today, the UK will be reporting ALL covid deaths?
It will make comparison with international data much harder. Can you think of a reason to do that?
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31-07-2020, 11:34 AM
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Coronavirus: Care home visits 'delayed' over lack of testing kit

Last week the government announced that visits in care home in England could resume once local authorities and local public health experts decided it was safe. Residents will be limited to seeing the same one visitor, where possible, the guidance says.

A number of care homes in England are having to delay the resumption of visits because of a lack of coronavirus testing for staff and residents.

It comes after the government withdrew one brand of home-test kits used in care homes over safety concerns. The government announcement came a few days after it said test kits made by Randox that it had sent to care homes should not be used as a precaution as the swabs were "not up to standard". The government said care homes affected by the withdrawal of kits would get replacements "as soon as possible".

A leading care home group told the BBC many of its facilities would not be able to host family members for weeks. Visits indoors are unlikely to be allowed to start without regular testing of staff and residents taking place and care homes say they are still waiting to be given alternative kits.

Provider MHA, the largest not for profit group in England, told the BBC it was "disappointed and frustrated by the latest failure in the care home testing regime".
Were the test kits not tested before they were sent to care homes .... ?
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31-07-2020, 06:38 PM
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Coronavirus: Care home visits 'delayed' over lack of testing kit



Were the test kits not tested before they were sent to care homes .... ?

Omah, safety concerns always come up with new and existing medical devices, drug products etc. Nothing new here, in fact its normal for this to come up after a product launch.

If we tested everything to infinitum, nothing would ever get done, so we have two use an element of risk and informed decisions on things like this.

The alternative would be to delay the launch of the tests even further and put health and safety for everyone at considerably higher risk.
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02-08-2020, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by big ben ->
Thanks to some of the posts I now get it. Care homes are not there to look after the elderly and infirm but to make a profit for the owners
I've been looking in to care homes quite a bit, recently, as I approach my mid 80s.

I feel that going into Private Care is a lot like buying a new house, in many ways.

One suggestion, I would make, is that anyone seeking Private care should get the terms & conditions looked at very carefully.

I have attached a link to just one local example, not in order to target a particular company, but to indicate what you can expect for a very great deal of money.

https://www.careuk.com/sites/rcs/fil...ment-FEB20.pdf

It's a long. legalistic read, sorry about that, but it does highlight what has already been said, i.e. they are in the business of selling care.
One example, carefully built in is that they do not refund payments, if you go into hospital, and they may not take you back, if the hospital discharges you, even though you still are paying for your room. ring any bellS?

I suggest that anyone entering the argument about Care Home versus Government, should have a good dig around in this type of contract.

I am of the thought that a nice hotel room, within walking (or stretcher) distance of a good hospital, is the best bet.

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03-08-2020, 11:51 AM
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Just saying ...

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-he...-idUKKBN24Z17I
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03-08-2020, 12:43 PM
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New 90-minute tests that can detect coronavirus and flu will be rolled out in hospitals and care homes from next week.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53632043
The "on-the-spot" swab and DNA tests will help distinguish between Covid-19 and other seasonal illnesses, the government said.

In hospital, most tests - 9 in 10 - are currently turned around in 24 hours.

But those done in the community via regional drive-thru centres, using postal kits and mobile units, tend to take longer because they have to be sent away to labs for processing.

Results are only returned in 24 hours in half of cases.

The announcement comes as the government pushed back a July target to regularly test all care home staff and residents - a key move to identify so-called silent spreaders, those who are infected but do not show symptoms.

This is unlikely to be achieved until September because the number of testing kits had become more limited.

The government said almost half a million of the new rapid swab tests, called LamPORE, will be available from next week in adult care settings and laboratories, with millions more due to be rolled out later in the year.

Additionally, thousands of DNA test machines, which have already been used in eight London hospitals and can analyse nose swabs, will be rolled out across NHS hospitals from September.

Around 5,000 machines will provide 5.8 million tests in the coming months, the Department for Health said.
Later rather than sooner, then ..... but anything to slow/stop a potential winter "second wave" is very welcome .....
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03-08-2020, 01:11 PM
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New 90-minute tests that can detect coronavirus and flu will be rolled out in hospitals and care homes from next week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53632043


Later rather than sooner, then ..... but anything to slow/stop a potential winter "second wave" is very welcome .....
You can't just bring about these new methods overnight Omah. You're starting to sound a bit like "Captain Hindsight".
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08-08-2020, 02:40 PM
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Coronavirus: Randox recalls up to 750,000 test kits over safety concerns

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53705229

The UK's medicines and healthcare products regulator (MHRA) asked Randox to recall the kits sent out to care homes and individuals.

The government said it was a "precautionary measure" and the risk to safety was low.

Last weekend, a pledge to provide regular testing for care home residents and staff in England was delayed, partly because of the problems with Randox kits.

Care home residents or staff with symptoms of coronavirus can continue to book a test.

Healthcare group Randox, based in County Antrim in Northern Ireland, claims to be responsible for up to 17% of the total tests carried out in the UK. About 1.3 million of its tests have been sent out so far.
Another government procurement shambles .....
 
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