09-08-2019, 12:26 PM
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Re: Patriotism!
Originally Posted by tarantula
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It would have stayed a small regional issue, if Britain hadn't been stupid enough to get involved!
Too many great empires saw the opportunity to gain from engaging in a European conflict that would what today we would call an adjustment in wealth and possessions.
09-08-2019, 12:43 PM
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Re: Patriotism!
Originally Posted by Longdogs
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Sacrificing your life for love of your country would probably be seen as the ultimate in patriotism. The First World War, for example is why we are all here today.
Lest we forget—lest we forget!
09-08-2019, 12:55 PM
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Re: Patriotism!
Slightly different angle but with the intentions of enhancing Belgium Prestige.. (whatever that was)I saw a short documentary today about Belgium establishing a free state in the Congo. End of 1800's beginning of 1900's. A topic that I had previously no knowledge of.
Horrific atrocities were committed against the Congolese people. Mutilation for failure in meeting the rubber quotas under the rules of the Red Rubber system.
In the Museum in Belgium (which has been re-opened this week) they had had a live human zoo, with slaves in the early 1900's. Severed hands were proof that forces had shot and killed someone, delivered in baskets ! The image of the father staring at his daughter's severed hand and foot for not meeting the rubber quota. The list is endless.
This makes some gruesome reading.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atroci...ngo_Free_State
09-08-2019, 02:20 PM
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Re: Patriotism!
Originally Posted by Puddle Duck
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Slightly different angle but with the intentions of enhancing Belgium Prestige.. (whatever that was) I saw a short documentary today about Belgium establishing a free state in the Congo. End of 1800's beginning of 1900's. A topic that I had previously no knowledge of.
Horrific atrocities were committed against the Congolese people. Mutilation for failure in meeting the rubber quotas under the rules of the Red Rubber system.
In the Museum in Belgium (which has been re-opened this week) they had had a live human zoo, with slaves in the early 1900's. Severed hands were proof that forces had shot and killed someone, delivered in baskets ! The image of the father staring at his daughter's severed hand and foot for not meeting the rubber quota. The list is endless.
This makes some gruesome reading.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atroci...ngo_Free_State
The spanish were just as bad as well!
The french and dutch were about as bad as the british!
The australians are still struggling with it?
Regards Donkeyman!
I am glad we no longer have one.
09-08-2019, 02:39 PM
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Re: Patriotism!
Originally Posted by tarantula
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WW1 was a totally unnecessary war, which never should have been fought, it caused WW2 which we had to fight.
Who retaliated with their own blockade with submarines etc
It was probably uneccassary but it did not cause WW2!
That was caused by fascism and nationalism, or you could
call it,( patriotism). Which Hitler used to motivate his citizens
to carry out all manner of atrocities and actions that they
wouldnt normally have been willing to do?
Regards Donkeyman!
09-08-2019, 02:46 PM
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Re: Patriotism!
Originally Posted by tarantula
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Hitler might never have come to power in Germany if WW1 hadn't happened.
What was also inevitable is that a nationalistic combined with socialistic government would emerge out of the Weimar Republic as a direct result of the shameful stitch-up that was enshrined in the infamous Treaty of Versailles.
If it hadn't been Shicklgruber it would have been someone else cast in the same mould.
09-08-2019, 02:59 PM
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Re: Patriotism!
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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WW1Started as a trade war, and uk blockaded germanyWho retaliated with their own blockade with submarines etc
It was probably uneccassary but it did not cause WW2!
That was caused by fascism and nationalism, or you could
call it,( patriotism). Which Hitler used to motivate his citizens
to carry out all manner of atrocities and actions that they
wouldnt normally have been willing to do?
Regards Donkeyman!
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