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14-08-2019, 03:28 PM
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Re: Epic Fail for Tory Remainers

Originally Posted by Puddle Duck ->
Not too impressed with Bolton calling us 'peasants'. His mother a housewife and father fireman.. (nothing against firemen) but he seems to think we're all la-la, outside the US. ,and he's National Security Advisor.. so what's he plotting ? Don't trust him one iota.
That's just the attitude the UK will encounter in all negotiations due to brexit. You're laying down, so you get f*cked all over. Didn't you say that's how may was treated in the withdrawal negotiations?
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14-08-2019, 04:19 PM
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Re: Epic Fail for Tory Remainers

Originally Posted by Puddle Duck ->
Not too impressed with Bolton calling us 'peasants'. His mother a housewife and father fireman.. (nothing against firemen) but he seems to think we're all la-la, outside the US. ,and he's National Security Advisor.. so what's he plotting ? Don't trust him one iota.
I looked into this again since you posted and what Bolton said was about the other member states where the peasants are made to vote again in referendums.

Ouch.... !
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14-08-2019, 09:08 PM
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Re: Epic Fail for Tory Remainers

Originally Posted by Puddle Duck ->
Not too impressed with Bolton calling us 'peasants'. His mother a housewife and father fireman.. (nothing against firemen) but he seems to think we're all la-la, outside the US. ,and he's National Security Advisor.. so what's he plotting ? Don't trust him one iota.
There is a problem with sector-by-sector trade agreements. They are not compatible with WTO rules, which say free trade agreements for goods should cover "substantially all the trade".
There is no formal definition of that term but a figure of 90% has often been suggested.

It is unlikely a deal covering a few sectors would qualify. Other WTO members could start a dispute and would, on the face of it, have every chance of winning.
However, it does not mean it would be impossible. WTO rules are not enforceable in national courts so if the UK and the US wanted to go ahead they probably could.
But it would be a strange move for any country committed to the rules-based global trade system that has the WTO at its heart.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49325620
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14-08-2019, 09:37 PM
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Re: Epic Fail for Tory Remainers

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
There is a problem with sector-by-sector trade agreements. They are not compatible with WTO rules, which say free trade agreements for goods should cover "substantially all the trade".
There is no formal definition of that term but a figure of 90% has often been suggested.

It is unlikely a deal covering a few sectors would qualify. Other WTO members could start a dispute and would, on the face of it, have every chance of winning.
However, it does not mean it would be impossible. WTO rules are not enforceable in national courts so if the UK and the US wanted to go ahead they probably could.
But it would be a strange move for any country committed to the rules-based global trade system that has the WTO at its heart.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49325620


Oh no not the BBC...
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Oh no not the BBC...
The truth is certainly scary for you
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The truth is certainly scary for you

It's the BBC ... I wouldn't associate them with truth

I would associate them with perverts, paedophiles and sex offenders though .... just saying
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15-08-2019, 02:34 PM
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The truth is certainly scary for you
Whether one can be optimistic or pessimistic about the outcome of post-Brexit trade negotiations between the UK and the US, the problems the parties will encounter do not seem to be entirely (or at all) in the area that the self-appointed pundits would have us believe.*

Perhaps the more serious obstacle is the question of whether Congress will ratify any deal agreed by the Trump administration, especially in the context of reservations expressed in the US legislature about the impact of the Irish backstop.*

But then, the bigger problem yet is the absence of a trade deal between the EU and the UK, where our exports are currently more than twice the level of US trade, 40 percent of which are services. The US, for all its apparent willingness to do a deal with the UK, may be a dangerous distraction.
http://eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=87330
 
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