03-10-2020, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Muddy
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One of the worse things to be imported form America IMO I think it’s a horrible custom .
Giving kids nasty sugary treats or else ?
Originally Posted by Artangel
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Worse to me is, it’s a form of begging...blackmail even!
I agree, it is a bad custom & a form of blackmail. Never liked it at all.
03-10-2020, 11:41 AM
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You obviously have a different thing in the UK. Halloween is popular here but it's usually just very young kids walking around at dusk dressed up accompanied by their parents ; who often dress up too. We never see little kids walking around without adults. Like many things some people love it and think it's fun, others don't. The custom here is a small balloon appears in your letterbox a couple of days before. If you welcome the kids you blow it up and tie it to your letterbox. If you don't want to be bothered then you throw it away. It usually works either way. As far as sugary treats go, it's one night in a year. If kids are encouraged to care for their teeth and usually eat healthy food, why not?...The kids are usually polite and well behaved. The kids have a ball and the parents get to catch up. And none of them are "feral" in my experience. It's not just an American thing. Didn't it originate in Ireland?..They have Halloween in Canada and New Zealand too I think.03-10-2020, 01:09 PM
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We loved hallowe'en when we were young, but now there's not so many children go round the doors, a lot of them have parties in their house, with their friends, but that will be a no no this year. I don't think it's safe for children to be knocking on doors. I agree with keezoy, any children who have come to our door in the past have always been polite,...none of them begging or feral
03-10-2020, 01:46 PM
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Re: Trick or Treat Banned
Originally Posted by Muddy
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One of the worse things to be imported form America IMO I think it’s a horrible custom .
Giving kids nasty sugary treats or else ?
''It may be celebrated worldwide, but did you know that many Halloween traditions originated in Scotland? ... The Gaelic festival of Samhain, celebrated throughout Scotland and originating in Celtic lands across Northern Europe, ushered in the start of the winter season and marked the end of the harvest months.''
I remember it from "guisers" when we were children.
03-10-2020, 01:50 PM
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Re: Trick or Treat Banned
Originally Posted by keezoy
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Didn't it originate in Ireland?..They have Halloween in Canada and New Zealand too I think.
The heavily-commercialised version we are lumbered with these days is a shitty American import. It's nothing like how we enjoyed Halloween when I was a nipper.
03-10-2020, 02:02 PM
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Re: Trick or Treat Banned
Originally Posted by keezoy
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You obviously have a different thing in the UK. Halloween is popular here but it's usually just very young kids walking around at dusk dressed up accompanied by their parents ; who often dress up too. We never see little kids walking around without adults. Like many things some people love it and think it's fun, others don't. The custom here is a small balloon appears in your letterbox a couple of days before. If you welcome the kids you blow it up and tie it to your letterbox. If you don't want to be bothered then you throw it away. It usually works either way. As far as sugary treats go, it's one night in a year. If kids are encouraged to care for their teeth and usually eat healthy food, why not?...The kids are usually polite and well behaved. The kids have a ball and the parents get to catch up. And none of them are "feral" in my experience. It's not just an American thing. Didn't it originate in Ireland?..They have Halloween in Canada and New Zealand too I think.
It originated from the pagan Samhain festival which is when the dead can break through into this world.
Groups of people traveled from house to house carrying things to scare them away and being rewarded for doing so but became corrupted into a payment of a spiteful act to represent a spirit attacking the unprotected household.
Today's pumpkin lantern has replaced the old Swede or Turnip lantern with a candle inside and there's quite a bit of history behind that including when they were the forerunner of the more modern hurricane lantern.
Some students of Egyptian religious beliefs claim that something along the same lines were practiced in the time of the Narmer dynasty with the unification of Upper and Lower Egypt if so it's possible that it could have come from Africa over 5000 years ago.
That's just what I turned up when I got sidetracked while studying the two Abrehamic religions years ago (as has been my hobby for nearly sixty years now!)
Not bad for an old and ugly superannuated physicist eh?
03-10-2020, 02:21 PM
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I like the imaginative pumpkin lanterns decorating some houses and other spooky decorations so I hope that this doesn't mean that people stop doing that. As for kids wandering around in the dark it's never been too welcome but it's a fun night for the kids so I feel sorry for them.I hope this also means that bonfire night in the back gardens is cancelled. Poor pets and animals!
03-10-2020, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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I like the imaginative pumpkin lanterns decorating some houses and other spooky decorations so I hope that this doesn't mean that people stop doing that. As for kids wandering around in the dark it's never been too welcome but it's a fun night for the kids so I feel sorry for them. I hope this also means that bonfire night in the back gardens is cancelled. Poor pets and animals!
Who no! ABSOLUTELY NOT!
I don't dislike animals in the least but bonfire night - WHOO YER!
BIG, AND I MEAN BIG bangs, rockets whooshing into the air, flickering bright lights from the old favourites -- bring 'em on! Just a shame some of the old favourites can't be found any more, Chinese Crackers (flip-flops) being one. I swear they used to follow you as you r
an, and the smells from the explosives and flares and goodness knows what on the bonfires. Wonderful!
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