22-03-2019, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Muddy
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This is a interesting article .So many people were blamed for this massacre who had nothing whatsoever to do with it.
https://www.melaniephillips.com/afte...ellian-frenzy/
Think a lot of people should read it.
If you have seen the clip of the attack on Chelsea Clinton a decent person would be sick...but even more sad is her wringing her hands and saying "Im so sorry"
22-03-2019, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Julie1962
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Couldn't agree more to be honest I do wonder as our western fashions became more decadent and revealing did they see it as a way to rebel against that ? I don't have the answer just more and more questions. You can dress modestly without drawing attention to yourself to say "I am dressing modestly". I have noticed that recently many young women dress quite modestly compared to even ten years ago. The low cut tops are no more. Probably down to the Me Too culture. The trouble is that the classic Muslim outfits do not say "I am modest" but say "I am different from you and reject your society" which will make them more likely to be targets as that physical difference is also seen as linked to terrorism.
22-03-2019, 06:07 PM
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In the Islamic countries I know it's also in some cases a class thing .Girls from wealthy families especially those educated in the uk or the us tended to dress in western clothles with a hijab on the top as a sop to the priorities .
So you would see young women in jeans they had been poured into and a fitting top but wearing a hijab .
This was often seen at equestrian events .
Women's riding wear is usually tight and close fitting .
The hijab would be under a riding hat some really didn't show anyway .
Of course the girls who did showing jumping etc were usually from wealthy families.
King Husseins daughter represented Jordan in the the olimpics showjumping .
The exception here is once again Pakistan where equestrian events are dominated by men .
In the UK Islam is unfortunately mainly represented by the Pakistani community which practices the most repressive sort of Islam .
22-03-2019, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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I think it is peer pressure as was the case with the lovely lady who was house sharing in the 90s. She was being insulted and was once spat at by other Muslims. So any change in attitude would have to be led by Imams.You can dress modestly without drawing attention to yourself to say "I am dressing modestly". I have noticed that recently many young women dress quite modestly compared to even ten years ago. The low cut tops are no more. Probably down to the Me Too culture. The trouble is that the classic Muslim outfits do not say "I am modest" but say "I am different from you and reject your society" which will make them more likely to be targets as that physical difference is also seen as linked to terrorism.
22-03-2019, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Muddy
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In the Islamic countries I know it's also in some cases a class thing .Girls from wealthy families especially those educated in the uk or the us tended to dress in western clothles with a hijab on the top as a sop to the priorities .
So you would see young women in jeans they had been poured into and a fitting top but wearing a hijab .
This was often seen at equestrian events .
Women's riding wear is usually tight and close fitting .
The hijab would be under a riding hat some really didn't show anyway .
Of course the girls who did showing jumping etc were usually from wealthy families.
King Husseins daughter represented Jordan in the the olimpics showjumping .
The exception here is once again Pakistan where equestrian events are dominated by men .
In the UK Islam is unfortunately mainly represented by the Pakistani community which practices the most repressive sort of Islam .
22-03-2019, 10:56 PM
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You know Julie I just don't understand it myself. The biggest numbers massacred by extremists are Muslims. The attacks we have had are nothing in comparison with what ISIS etc have done to the good Muslim faithful abroad. Why don't they want to reform the religion to say "they are not us"? Its surely a crisis for them to see their faith seen by the world to be in the gutter in this way. Are the different groups just so different from each other that they can never unite?22-03-2019, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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You know Julie I just don't understand it myself. The biggest numbers massacred by extremists are Muslims. The attacks we have had are nothing in comparison with what ISIS etc have done to the good Muslim faithful abroad. Why don't they want to reform the religion to say "they are not us"? Its surely a crisis for them to see their faith seen by the world to be in the gutter in this way. Are the different groups just so different from each other that they can never unite?
The conflict between Sunni and Shia in which Muslims kill Muslims is also rather simple. It's all about jurisprudence after Old Mo did the decent thing and snuffed it.
It would be great if extraterrestrials were to land and by so doing torpedo the whole thiest horse apples once and for all.
22-03-2019, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Tommy Robinson, real name Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon in conjunction with Peter McLoughlin has recently had a book published entitled "Mohammed's Koran - why Muslims kill for Islam that goes some way to explain why killing is so very popular and, like Fitna - see YouTube relates the uncivilised behaviour to the Qur'an.The conflict between Sunni and Shia in which Muslims kill Muslims is also rather simple. It's all about jurisprudence after Old Mo did the decent thing and snuffed it.
It would be great if extraterrestrials were to land and by so doing torpedo the whole thiest horse apples once and for all.
Everyone has an interpretation but every single Muslim is not killing everyone around so it's not the religion but something else at play - no?
22-03-2019, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Tommy Robinson? So why does he not use his real name?
He's not popular with the establishment, but then the truth rarely is.
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