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Stain over Paint project

I've got some basic pine shelves which I originally stained, then painted with an oil based paint some years ago. I now want to take them back to stain if at all possible so have used paint stripper and/or a heat gun and most but not all, of the paint has gone.

I think to stain them without any of the paint showing, I need to use a gel stain - and probably several coats of that, followed by a varnish.

Before I buy the necessary stain and put in loads of work, can someone advise that the gel stain will cover?

Thanks very much.
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23-02-2019, 07:24 PM
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Re: Stain over Paint project

I wonder if it would be easier to gently sand them back to the original wood, then begin to stain?
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23-02-2019, 07:31 PM
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Re: Stain over Paint project

Originally Posted by Right Now ->
I wonder if it would be easier to gently sand them back to the original wood, then begin to stain?
I think so too. I don't think any stain will cover paint very well.
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23-02-2019, 07:47 PM
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Re: Stain over Paint project

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I wonder if it would be easier to gently sand them back to the original wood, then begin to stain?
That would be my thought too.
Or possibly replace?
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23-02-2019, 09:42 PM
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Re: Stain over Paint project

Thanks - difficult to explain but they would be next to impossible to replace.

I've already put a lot of work into stripping the paint off with paint stripper and a heat gun but there's still a residue.

There are a variety of woodstains on the market......and some are reputed to cover paint and other imperfections in the wood - which would resolve my problem but it would be good to get confirmation of this and preferably a recommendation.
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23-02-2019, 10:50 PM
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Re: Stain over Paint project

Wood stains generally work by soaking into the wood. If there is any paint left on the wood the stain will not go through it and you will be left with 'patches' where small bits of the paint were not removed.

How 'bad' it will look depends on just how many bits of paint you were unable to remove but in woodworking circles it's not recommended to apply stain over paint.

The hard facts are that once you paint wood with either an oil based or water based paint you will never get back to a true natural wood look.

That's why I try to avoid painting any wood any time any where. I much prefer to use Cuprinol wood preserver and their stains especially the 'natural' shades, and then I usually give two or three coats of varnish on top. This keeps the natural beauty of the wood and provides a long lasting finish even for outdoors ('tho the outdoors woodwork will need re-varnishing every 2 or 3 years)

Be very skeptical of any manufacturer who claims their stains will 'hide' paintwork.

P.S. Even with Cuprinol avoid the 'water based' stains they are useless, always pick the 'solvent based' products, they cost a bit more but are well worth it.
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24-02-2019, 09:37 AM
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Re: Stain over Paint project

All my furniture "renovations" tend to be distressed, shabby chic that way it doesn't matter if old paint etc shows through
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Re: Stain over Paint project

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All my furniture "renovations" tend to be distressed, shabby chic that way it doesn't matter if old paint etc shows through
Trouble is - it's not intentionally distressed!!
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Trouble is - it's not intentionally distressed!!
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24-02-2019, 11:25 AM
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Re: Stain over Paint project

I would sand it down too to get rid of all the paint then you have options....I would probably use a coloured Danish oil with is quick and easy and would give a lovely natural finish...I used it on the island in my kitchen...you can keep giving it another coat too ....for a deeper luxurious finish.

Good luck....it would be nice to see the finished shelves
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