27-01-2019, 05:15 PM
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Re: If only Cameron had not been PM
Originally Posted by Solasch
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On the international level politicians represent to UK. You have to abide by the government you elected, and better luck with the next election.
27-01-2019, 05:18 PM
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Re: If only Cameron had not been PM
Originally Posted by Solasch
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The deal was negotiated by civil servants loyal to UK and EU. The UK has been infighting on all internal levels, within and between political parties. The EU has stuck together. But that is what the EU ultimately is about: sticking together against third parties.As jbr said elsewhere on this forum, the last time the brits did that was in 1940. The present generations (anyone under the age of 75) have lost that capacity.
27-01-2019, 05:22 PM
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Re: If only Cameron had not been PM
Originally Posted by Solasch
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On the international level politicians represent to UK. You have to abide by the government you elected, and better luck with the next election.
A vote for Tory, Labour or Lib Dems, IS actually a vote for the EU. It has been this way for years but most of the electorate didn't realise.
Whichever government we elected, has simply continued to further the EU agenda, each PM seeing the various EU Treaties ratified and pushed through without ever consulting the populous on whether they actually wanted the sovereignty of their country and their very nationality abolished.
The ruse it up.
The curtain concealing the Wizard of Oz has been drawn back and people can now see the EU for what it is, what it really is, not a Common Market but a political union, a global wannabee which craves power and which doesn't care for any individual country or its people
We have many obstacles to overcome, not least changing this fake 2-3 party political system run by Masonic and Common Purpose operatives.
27-01-2019, 05:45 PM
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Re: If only Cameron had not been PM
Originally Posted by Realist
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Except that the people are now increasingly realising that the governmental election process is just an illusion of democracy. It is a fake 2-3 party political system in which ALL the main parties are actually the EU.A vote for Tory, Labour or Lib Dems, IS actually a vote for the EU. It has been this way for years but most of the electorate didn't realise.
Whichever government we elected, has simply continued to further the EU agenda, each PM seeing the various EU Treaties ratified and pushed through without ever consulting the populous on whether they actually wanted the sovereignty of their country and their very nationality abolished.
The ruse it up.
The curtain concealing the Wizard of Oz has been drawn back and people can now see the EU for what it is, what it really is, not a Common Market but a political union, a global wannabee which craves power and which doesn't care for any individual country or its people
We have many obstacles to overcome, not least changing this fake 2-3 party political system run by Masonic and Common Purpose operatives.
27-01-2019, 06:04 PM
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Re: If only Cameron had not been PM
Originally Posted by Solasch
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The UK politicians are taken over by aliens, or the devil. Whichever depends on your persuasion.
After brexit and the masses will KNOW THEIR VOTE COUNTS AS NO MORE HIDING BEHIND EU RULES /excuses ... that they ( whichever party) has better start doing what they promise in manifesto or the electorate will say bye bye AND THAT IS WHAT SCARES THE LIFE OUT OF THEM MOST OF ALL !!!!!
27-01-2019, 07:23 PM
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Re: If only Cameron had not been PM
Originally Posted by marmaduke
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I think one only has to look at corbin and Dianna to delete alien insert idiot ... and that the tories are ... well they are just that , rich arrogant silver spooners that whilst better than labour kid themselves that they are as good as we can expect .After brexit and the masses will KNOW THEIR VOTE COUNTS AS NO MORE HIDING BEHIND EU RULES /excuses ... that they ( whichever party) has better start doing what they promise in manifesto or the electorate will say bye bye AND THAT IS WHAT SCARES THE LIFE OUT OF THEM MOST OF ALL !!!!!
27-01-2019, 08:16 PM
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Re: If only Cameron had not been PM
Originally Posted by itsme
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What do you suggest as an alternative then nob head?
Pathetic to say the least.
27-01-2019, 08:58 PM
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Re: If only Cameron had not been PM
Originally Posted by Realist
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As I said, they are getting desperate because their mantras and false rhetoric isn't working here.Still I'm sure they are still being paid well. Is it payment by the post Solasch or just per day's efforts?
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