19-05-2021, 03:58 PM
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Re: Migrant swarm invades Ceuta Morocco !!
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiI will repeat, what the EU does is up to them, what we do is up to us, the UK.
We are responsible for our own security, not the EU.
When we were in the EU we could have sent back everyone we found, we chose not to.
That is our fault, not the fault of the EU.
Now we have left, we cannot and that was our choice to leave.
It takes the agreement of the French to accept back every illegal immigrant found to have come via France and as I'm sure you must know, the French have never agreed.
Never.
So how can we send them back to France if France refuses them?
And this has been going on for decades; it's not a recent thing.
Again: if these crossings were not attempted from France the numbers attempting to cross (because of the distance involved) would be significantly smaller.
Denial that France (and therefore the EU) are responsible for those attempting to cross the channel illegally doesn't make sense for that simple reason.
19-05-2021, 04:15 PM
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Re: Migrant swarm invades Ceuta Morocco !!
The dirty little secret is that people have become a commodity and trafficking them has become big business. Drug cartels and other organized crime groups are taking advantage of the desperate who are willing to pay thousands to cross borders. People who used to move drugs around the world are already savvy about how to move people. Over here, human smugglers are known as coyotes.The horrors of crossing our (at least) borders are staggering. Women are raped en route as a price to continue on, people are held like indentured servants (often sex slaves) to pay off the debt that increases as the travel continues, children are being dumped alone over walls and in deserts as a desperate means to pick them up, un accompanied minors are being horribly abused. Just this week, several children were found alone in the desert (how many weren't?), and a border town house was found to have 90 people jammed inside to essentially be used as slave labor.
Unstable countries need to understand that every time a decent working person emigrates, the cost in productivity, GDP, and lost tax revenue goes down. For some reason, they really don't get this. If these countries can't stabilize their own nations, they will bankrupt themselves. Better to deal with it now.
We also need sanctions against countries like France that are just waving illegals through...
19-05-2021, 08:42 PM
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Re: Migrant swarm invades Ceuta Morocco !!
Originally Posted by surthat:om
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the dirty little secret is that people have become a commodity and trafficking them has become big business. Drug cartels and other organized crime groups are taking advantage of the desperate who are willing to pay thousands to cross borders. People who used to move drugs around the world are already savvy about how to move people. Over here, human smugglers are known as coyotes.The horrors of crossing our (at least) borders are staggering. Women are raped en route as a price to continue on, people are held like indentured servants (often sex slaves) to pay off the debt that increases as the travel continues, children are being dumped alone over walls and in deserts as a desperate means to pick them up, un accompanied minors are being horribly abused. Just this week, several children were found alone in the desert (how many weren't?), and a border town house was found to have 90 people jammed inside to essentially be used as slave labor.
Unstable countries need to understand that every time a decent working person emigrates, the cost in productivity, gdp, and lost tax revenue goes down. For some reason, they really don't get this. If these countries can't stabilize their own nations, they will bankrupt themselves. Better to deal with it now.
We also need sanctions against countries like france that are just waving illegals through...
19-05-2021, 11:52 PM
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Re: Migrant swarm invades Ceuta Morocco !!
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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Over the course of today six thousand illegal migrants arrived in Ceutaa Spanish enclave in Mor occo , supposedly to embark on a trip
across the Mediterranean sea to get into Spain ??
Moroccan police apparently did nothing to stop them entering Ceuto !
However the Spanish authorities have managed to evict a couple
of thousand of them so far !!
How long before that happens here ??
Donkeyman! 👎👎
Super! Time for a remake of "Casablanca" perhaps?
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