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12-07-2019, 06:57 PM
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I'm saying that the UK goverment as a complete entity is infested with EU operatives pretending to be UK politicians representing and working for the UK people. Including stooge PM's like John Major and Tony BLiar and Teresa May.

It doesn't matter what any of them say or do, they are all simply working for the EU. We can vote Tory, we can vote Labour but it makes not a h'appeth of difference because they are all working for the EU which is how and why all the various EU treaties got drafted and signed without any consultation of the UK people.

More and more UK citizens are waking up to this truth. Our democracy is being usurped through stealth and skullduggery and by the use of a ridiculous political voting system which is nothing but a scam designed to appease the masses.

Nobody in the UK parliament is going to deliver BrExit. They work for the EU and clearly the EU has no intention of allowing us to Leave. The pathetic circus side show is a farce.

May was not permitted to allow us to leave and likewise Boris will not be permitted to let us Leave. The whole show is an utter farce.

Boris may have every genuine intention of doing what he says he will do. Nevertheless, he will not be permitted to go ahead with it. imho.
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12-07-2019, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Realist ->
I'm saying that the UK goverment as a complete entity is infested with EU operatives pretending to be UK politicians representing and working for the UK people. Including stooge PM's like John Major and Tony BLiar and Teresa May.

It doesn't matter what any of them say or do, they are all simply working for the EU. We can vote Tory, we can vote Labour but it makes not a h'appeth of difference because they are all working for the EU which is how and why all the various EU treaties got drafted and signed without any consultation of the UK people.

More and more UK citizens are waking up to this truth. Our democracy is being usurped through stealth and skullduggery and by the use of a ridiculous political voting system which is nothing but a scam designed to appease the masses.

Nobody in the UK parliament is going to deliver BrExit. They work for the EU and clearly the EU has no intention of allowing us to Leave. The pathetic circus side show is a farce.

May was not permitted to allow us to leave and likewise Boris will not be permitted to let us Leave. The whole show is an utter farce.

Boris may have every genuine intention of doing what he says he will do. Nevertheless, he will not be permitted to go ahead with it. imho.
If what you say is even remotely true, boris should know it. Otherwise he has no functioning relationship with anyone in the house or in the government, making him utterly unfit to be a pm. So he would know if what you say is true.
So either what you say about the EU is true, and boris is a liar. Or boris is sincere, and you are wrong about the EU. It can be only one of the two.
You tell me which one.
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12-07-2019, 07:34 PM
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Poison chalice. It's a case of be careful what you wish for, both for voters and BJ....
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12-07-2019, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch ->
If what you say is even remotely true, boris should know it.
Boris is a game player. If he is not already owned and controlled by the EU masters then he is simply positioning himself into a situation where he can personally negotiate with them for his own personal benefit.

The world today is about people being able to influence high numbers of other people. Dim witted people strive to become A List celebrities and media pundits and they know the way to do that is to become someone that can influence millions of ordinary people. Prime examples are the feckless morons on Reality TV shows. They are there to demonstrate they can influence millions of people and thereby secure lucrative TV contracts or important social positions.

Politics is no different. Just chumps looking to be the next hopeful that can demonstrate that they can influence the hearts and minds of the masses, hoping thus to become PMs or other key people and thus gain wealth and power.

I don't revere Boris or any other politician. They all lie. They are all trying to become more wealthy and more powerful. The existing UK political system is simply a den of corruption, a closed system run by the elite for the elite and which the UK people have no say in. It provides General Elections as a way to make the dumb masses think they have choice but in reality they have no choice at all. The government (the EU) always wins.

Boris will not deliver BrExit any more than Teresa May did.

Nobody will deliver BrExit because the EU will simply not permit it.

Until the UK people reject the sham 2 party political system and demand real choice and participation in key issues affecting the country and its people (a referendum system) then nothing is going to change.

Of course none of that kind of change is possible whilst the country is firmly in the clutches of the EU.

Quite the dilemma !
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12-07-2019, 08:15 PM
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Nothing to do with EU permission. Brexit is like Dorothy's quest for the Wizard of Oz.
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12-07-2019, 08:21 PM
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Billy BS. The UK could Exit the EU any time it wanted. But it won't happen. The EU is in total control.
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12-07-2019, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Realist ->
Until the UK people reject the sham 2 party political system and demand real choice and participation in key issues affecting the country and its people (a referendum system) then nothing is going to change.

Of course none of that kind of change is possible whilst the country is firmly in the clutches of the EU.

Quite the dilemma!
Okay, you agree boris is a liar. The matter of freeports is solved.

You realise what you are wishing for, is the system the other EU countries have for decades already? Everybody wants you to adopt that system, and now you want to leave?

Not a dilemma, but a contradiction!
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12-07-2019, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Realist ->
Billy BS. The UK could Exit the EU any time it wanted. But it won't happen. The EU is in total control.
Billy BS? I don't think so.

That's like blaming your spouse because you yourself don't want to walk out of a marriage. In the case of the EU we are not the only spouse. Just the grumpy one that never had much passion...
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12-07-2019, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch ->
Okay, you agree boris is a liar. The matter of freeports is solved.
Pathetic generalisation. Boris was not lying about Free Ports. Try not to be so peurile.

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
You realise what you are wishing for, is the system the other EU countries have for decades already? Everybody wants you to adopt that system, and now you want to leave?
Comedy gold

The EU is a cesspit of dictatorship, a bunch of unelected powermad elitists. The EU dilutes democracy to the point of oblivion. It has reduced our country's democracy likewise.

Up to the UK people to wrest it back
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12-07-2019, 08:47 PM
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We should ignore everything the EU asks us to do now.
 
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