18-07-2019, 10:51 AM
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Re: Brexit and Fisheries.
Originally Posted by Purwell
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i find it disgusting as well but I am certainly not surprised. What else could you expect from an odious snake oil salesman?
In september he would request an extension, to negotiate a better withdrawal deal. That will be denied by juncker, and out you go per november 1. Boris can blame the EU for the no deal exit.
However, should boris be stopped before october 31, the UK stumbles out of the EU because there will be no time for an extension to be requested, and no time for the EU to grant it.
Either way, boris has delivered on his promise and the UK is out. In any GE boris will cash in on his victory over the EU.
18-07-2019, 10:58 AM
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Re: Brexit and Fisheries.
Originally Posted by Ray Cathode
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Your 2825 posts in the brexit threads are a mystery to me, and I suspect others, if the EU is such a paradise why should it matter if we leave?
Never seen any posts from you that had any input whatsoever to the discussions on this forum. Your only outlook seems to be just pathetic condemnation of posts you obviously don't understand.
18-07-2019, 11:02 AM
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Re: Brexit and Fisheries.
Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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Swimmy, I don't trust one single one of our politicians. Each cares only for their own self-interest. Gove betrayal with regard to Fishing is just one more typical and expected example of that. It's not the first time he has done it, is it? He is so blatant with his "go with the flow" with whomever he thinks is in the driving seat. Boris is another. Today's headline in the DM - Boris stating that he will never do a deal with Nigel - what cloud is he living on? He has but a matter of weeks to come up with a deal for Brexit and already the EU have said they will not budge on the withdrawal agreement, He has Remain MP's within his own party eager and willing to stab him in the back and if necessary, bring down their own party in order to remain in the EU. He has Gina Miller taking legal action to prevent him from carrying out his threat of deal or no deal, and yet his sheer arrogance in his statement allows him to pompously state that under no circumstances would he ever do a deal with Nigel Farage??
Boris should sit up for a moment and get his head out from up his backside. He may well be feeling triumphant at his success of becoming a caretaker Prime Minister, but he really should get it into his thick skull that this isn't Eton, he is no longer in the Bullingdon Club and Brexit is just another challenge for him to take on. This is the UK's future, and if he does not succeed, he needn't worry about "not doing a deal with Nigel" because he will be out on his ear toot sweet with the inevitable General Election, Either Corbyn, the Libdems or Nigel will then be in the driving seat.
Idiot!
After having delayed Brexit for three years, we shall now see a further delay of three years - that's six years; the length of the Second World War.
Over that time we shall see, yet again, self-interested MPs arguing, promising and promise breaking in an attempt to kick the can down the road.
In the meantime, we will continue to fund the EU to our own detriment, receive orders from them which we shall meekly obey, and there is the distinct possibility of our losing even more of our sovereignty such as, for example, obligatory participating in the glorious EU Army.
All we can hope for is, at the next general election in three years at the latest, people have not forgotten this pantomime and will have the guts to vote for Farage and the Brexit Party, for that is the only way we shall ever escape the EU's clutches.
An interesting parallel to the Second World War. I wonder whether, this time, we shall be successful.
That depends entirely on us, the ordinary voters. Farage has given us a chance. Will we take it?
18-07-2019, 02:13 PM
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Re: Brexit and Fisheries.
Originally Posted by JBR
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An interesting parallel to the Second World War. I wonder whether, this time, we shall be successful.That depends entirely on us, the ordinary voters. Farage has given us a chance. Will we take it?
What chance did farage give you? The chance to be represented in europarliament. Will you take it or abandon nigel too?
18-07-2019, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch
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If you look at the nationalities represented in the allied forces, you will find all countries now in the EU among them. Allied together. And the best of those now abandons them?What chance did farage give you? The chance to be represented in europarliament. Will you take it or abandon nigel too?
How are your contributions going ?
Oh dear .... bye !
18-07-2019, 04:56 PM
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Re: Brexit and Fisheries.
Originally Posted by Bread
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What allied forces are these ? Do you mean NATO ? How are your contributions going ?
Oh dear .... bye !
It seems they would rather rely on their much vaunted European Army!
They'd have to expand their forces quite some way to even approach those of the US.
Mind you, Hitler managed to expand his forces enormously 70-odd years ago. He was still beaten, though, wasn't he?
No, I'd rely on NATO which, if a European Army came to fruition, would automatically exclude it as it would contravene the NATO rules.
So we'd have NATO (America, the UK, Canada), the European Army (the rest of the EU, if everyone agrees to join!), and the Russian forces.
If the Russians ever decided to expand westwards, I'd hope that the European Army would be on its own, being outside of the aegis of NATO. Could be quite entertaining.
18-07-2019, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JBR
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It seems they would rather rely on their much vaunted European Army!
They'd have to expand their forces quite some way to even approach those of the US.
Mind you, Hitler managed to expand his forces enormously 70-odd years ago. He was still beaten, though, wasn't he?
18-07-2019, 05:27 PM
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Re: Brexit and Fisheries.
Originally Posted by JBR
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If the Russians ever decided to expand westwards, I'd hope that the European Army would be on its own, being outside of the aegis of NATO. Could be quite entertaining.
18-07-2019, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch
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America always liked the idea of fighting their war with russia on european (including british) soil.
The EU will never be able to decide who to go to war with. Look what happened when Kuwait was invaded
Besides Europe has a habit of surrendering very easily
18-07-2019, 06:15 PM
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Re: Brexit and Fisheries.
Originally Posted by Solasch
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America always liked the idea of fighting their war with russia on european (including british) soil.
viz a viz the usa as protection from russia untill Tump
asked them to pay their share!
Regards Donkeyman!
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