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Unlike yourself then??? LOL
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Politicians will have an escape plan, guaranteed.
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Our Politicians will not lose a penny and will keep their pensions.

They are insulated from the day to day realities of life.
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Funny .... you and your mate Banchory resorting to insults.

From the two people who worship Donald Tusk, kiss the ass of the establishment and want the UK to adopt the Euro to save money on their holidays
Again you make up things I have never said

Your fervour to leave without a deal which. Would cause significant damage to the UK and to a lesser extent benefits no one other than Putin or the disaster capitalists. From your posts Id put you in the pro Russian troll camp along with a couple of others on this forum
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13-02-2019, 10:13 AM
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Again you make up things I have never said

Your fervour to leave without a deal which. Would cause significant damage to the UK and to a lesser extent benefits no one other than Putin or the disaster capitalists. From your posts Id put you in the pro Russian troll camp along with a couple of others on this forum
There are a couple of posters here who definitely come across that way Banchory. But by being so inflexible, the EU is playing into the hands of such political influences. They do need to get real given what's happening. It's as though they have their heads buried in the sand just as much as we do.
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13-02-2019, 11:51 AM
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There are a couple of posters here who definitely come across that way Banchory. But by being so inflexible, the EU is playing into the hands of such political influences. They do need to get real given what's happening. It's as though they have their heads buried in the sand just as much as we do.
Annie I would totally agree with your first sentence but can not in all sincerity agree with the overall post.

The EU are a rule based organization and have already spent over 2 years negotiating a withdrawal agreement that all have agreed to.
And then parliament have rejected it and we have gone back, like Oliver Twist saying 'please can we have more'. We don't even know what we want changing other than the 'backstop' but suggesting no alternative.

Is it any wonder why the EU 27 are so flabbergasted with the UK's stance and are not prepared to reopen a treaty that has already been agreed to.

The no deal possibility is not a UK/EU bargaining chip, it is a TM/Parliament blackmail chip.
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I must admit that I am now totally confused with what is going on.

May promised debates and votes on Thursday, now it has gone back another two weeks.

If we are leaving on 29th March we have whole rucks of legislation to get through Parliament and not enough time to get through it without suspending normal Parliamentary Rules, ie what is called Due Process of Law.

The Remain Lawyers will have a field day with this.

Why Oh Why has May pratted about like this?

We could have had a simple Canada, Japan type Free Trade Deal, the sort we are hoping for with the rest of the world, left on time with the deal in place and no need to pay 18 Billon for a Transition Period.
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13-02-2019, 02:26 PM
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The EU are a rule based organization and have already spent over 2 years negotiating a withdrawal agreement that all have agreed to.
NOPE they haven't done anything of the sort.

They tabled a STAY Agreement not a WITHDRAWal Agreement and thereby do we see the true nature of the EU and its arrogant leaders who clearly don't care one jot about the choice of the UK people or our democratic system.

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And then parliament have rejected it
Exactly as they should have done because its a fake deal, not a withdrawal deal. The EU Treaty clearly says we should be able to leave with a Withdrawal Agreement. The arrogant EU are not offering us one.

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Is it any wonder why the EU 27 are so flabbergasted with the UK's stance and are not prepared to reopen a treaty that has already been agreed to.
As stated, the Treaty lays out clearly how a member state can leave. There are 2 ways, either with an agreed Withdrawal deal or simply leaving without one. Both valid options. The EU is denying us the former and forcing us to take the latter. It's appalling bully boy mentality designed to make life as difficult as possible for the UK and its people, many of whom will suffer hardship as a result of this belligerent totalitarian attitude.

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The no deal possibility is not a UK/EU bargaining chip, it is a TM/Parliament blackmail chip.
No. The NO DEAL option is clearly THE ONLY way the UK is going to be able to leave. The EU isn't going to offer anything else and is showing itself to be the corrupt power that most member states are equally now realising.

On a global stage the EU has already been utterly discredited by having one of its primary member states so fed up of its corruption and boys club mentality that it has decided to leave. The EU's actions since that Leave decision was made have been despicable and remain so. This underpins exactly why the UK people were entirely right to vote Leave and I have no doubts at all that many Remainers have since seen the light as a result of all this EU posturing and bully boy tactics.

NO DEAL all the way now.
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No question at all that BrExit is the start of the EU collapse. Other states will imho begin their own processes to initiate an Exit.


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13-02-2019, 05:14 PM
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No question at all that BrExit is the start of the EU collapse. Other states will imho begin their own processes to initiate an Exit.


This cartoon, quite famous now, particularly appeals to me not only because it shows the importance of leaving, but also how even more important it is not to be the last one to leave!
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