Re: Is Brexit over ??
Originally Posted by
Donkeyman
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The reason fishing is only such a sall part of our economy is that
most of it has been transferred to the EU via the CFP over forty
years of manipulation!!
Why do you think EU is kicking in up such a fuss if it is worth nothing??
Apart from that, the advantage of having a thriving fishing industry
again is so that the coastal communities can once again take a
full part in the UK economy and rely on themselves for their incomes
instead of being on universal credit etc ?? I think you will agree these
communities have been sorely misused since being in the EU??
Hopefully they will be able to regain their pride if Boris continues to
deliver what he promised !!
Donkeyman! 🤗🤗
Oh I quite agree that the CFP changed things hugely but I'm not convinced that our fishing industry - especially fishermen - are going to make the most of things and improve things greatly.
It would take a far, far bigger rise in the whole industry than even the most optimistic forecasts suggest to make a noticable contribution by the industry towards gross national income.
I think you're expecting way too much if you think that improving the industry is going to make any real change in coastal communities too - that ship sailed long ago and having a few more fisherman ain't going to make one jot of difference.
What would make a difference is getting us British to eat more and different seafoods again and even if that is possible it will take decades before any beneficial imopact is seen.
Otherwise those few extra fishermen will land their fish in a few major ports and see it transported to even fewer processing plants and markets, so these coastal towns will see no benefit whatsoever.
Oh and the EU kick up a fuss about anything if they think it will help politically - especially where they might lose out.
That bluster is all part of who the EU are but it means nothing.
As the old saying goes: actions speak louder than words.
Here the actions were that the EU were so frightened that they would lose
all access to UK waters and so it incentivised the EU as part of a larger trade deal.
I'm not here to change your mind or anybody else's BTW; I fully accept what a futile ask that would be.
If your mind is already made up .............
But I will point out the erroneous interpretations which lead tofalse statements or - like here - point out other (and possibly more-likely) conclusions to be drawn from what little fact exists so far.
For example, as you know I live quite near to Hull and to Grimsby.
Grimsby is one of the largest fish markets and seafood processors in the UK.
There is absolutely nothing negative coming from the industry in Grimsby or in Hull so far.
I accept that this might change in the future but for now, nothing.
Which indicates to me that whatever problems might exist are localised and minimal.